Hot diggity! Thank you Cathy and Bill. The folks who run the drives in my town are not necessarily the cream of the crop, so in another year I will print out the info from the web site, get a note from the doc, and roll up my sleeve. The motive in donating was never entirely altruistic, but in part the competition between me and other donors as to who could give a pint in the least time. My record was 4:56 before I was banned. I am easily amused (grin).