I'm gonna print all of the above for John tonite. Not only did he side the garage [ in cedar boards, he used cedar shakes for accents, he wired it and installed all the light fixtures for his "workshop" area, hung a double door and a myriad other things. {However I still have 3 leaky faucets in the house- you guys know about priorities-right] I have subtlely suggested that all of this activity might have something to do with his failure to regain any weight, but hey- what do I know. Amy