Gary, I think his "exact words" to us the other day were "Erbitux is being used when other chemo drugs have failed". I will read your link because I do want to ask some more questions. Sometimes it is hard talking to these guys-they know I am not a Doc and so do I-I feel like I'm walking a fine line between challanging their treatment plan and insisting that they justify them to me[John doesn't want to hear those discussions] and asking dumb questions. If I had been better informed a year ago, I would have pushed hard for John to have chemo along with the radiation after his 1st surgery. Amy