Thanks again to all for your heartfelt sympathy.......it`s just starting to hit Packer, and with the massive wound we`re dealing with, it worries me..........Holidays approaching and not one thing done......worry on my part about next surgery, sometimes it seems we live in 2 different worlds, he needs to gear up for surgery, hopfully in january, and I seem to have lots of my own fears, that quite frankly, do not need shared with him............again, thanks to all