Actually no one here calls it THE....it's that dumb TV show that is causing this ridiculous addition to the words Orange County to be used. It's even rubbing off on me, stupid as it is. By the by, the folks in San Franciso and LA would have a word with you, since they are so fond of saying "I live in THE city"..... Truth is, there are wall to wall cities in So Cal with nothing in between them. No place where one stops and another begins that is decernable. It is one F----n parking lot covered with concrete. You can drive from southern OC to northern LA county and never leave a city. No matter what you call it, in my book (except for at the beach) it all just sucks. I miss my life in the mountains of Tahoe, but the dry air and my xerostomia would never tolerate each other. And as if THE has some exclusivity to NYC, those from that area are proud of saying that they just live at THE lake!!!! But we are hijacking an importnat thread.......so I'll quit here.


Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant.