Brian, i agree with all your concerns about this. I`m one of those people who wants an explanation for everything, or least prove it to myself. I have an idea, as you used visualization, and frank used audio tapes that I recorded for him, we could just discuss the things that have helped us, even if it was just to feel better. meditation, visualization.......things that won`t cost anyone a dime. Not anything to use instead of........I`m the first to admit, I`m on antidepressants and traquilizers, so maybe we could just stick with things that we personally found helpful, that way we are addressing the mental emotional aspects in dealing with this disease, but not advocating anything STUPID...................and I don`t care, I still love Bernie Siegel.............Dee