| Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | When you've had as much radiation as I have (97 GY), it really is the gift that keeps on giving. I just got back from my ENT because I was having intermittent pain in my left ear (which was the only symptom of my cancer the first time). She took a look and started scooping out an amazing amount of hardened ear wax. The right ear was fine with no buildup. Pain gone. She asked:"Do you use Q-tips?" "Yes", I replied expecting a lecture but to my surprise she said: "Good, now just start a daily swab with some baby oil or mineral oil in that left ear." That is of course how my dear Sainted Mother cleaned our ears. Dr. Google confirms that high radiation does indeed cause a buildup of ear wax - plus it's appearing in snippets of articles about the Japan nuclear contamination. Much better than a recurrence though. Charm 65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 701 Likes: 1 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 701 Likes: 1 | Absolutely, it is MUCH better to have wax build up (sounds like an ad for furniture polish!) than a recurrence. I am so happy for you that you had a reassuring appointment. That is GREAT news! Merry Christmas to you and your beautiful wife!
Anita
Anita (68) CG to husband, Clark, 79, DX SCC 11/07, T4N0Mx, PEG 1/08, RAD, post rad infection 3/08, HBOT 40 dives, ORN, Surg 11/09 mandibulectomy w/fibular graft. Plastic Surg 4/10, 12/10, 3/11, 10/11, 4/12, 10/12. All PETS clear, PEG out 1/11. 6/11 non union jaw fracture Fractured jaw w/surgery 7/14 Aspiration pneumonia 7/21, 10/22 PEG 7/21 Botox injections
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 595 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 595 | I have the same problem and have to have my personnel nurse clean my left ear monthly or the wax is so dense I can not hear with the left ear. Much better and easier then a reaccurence, so you are not alone!! Semper-Fi Bob
Bob age 57, non smoker,non drinker, ended treatment on 11 Nov 2007 and started back to work on 29 Nov 2007. Veterans Day 2012 the Battle was lowered, folded, Taps was played and the Flag buried as I am know a 5 year survivor. Semper-FI !!!
| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | I have the same issue. My ENT advises [i]not[/i] to use Q-tips as it only pushes the wax into the ear. Loud music (or exposure to loud sound) will also can a high wax buildup. I am a working musician so radiation or band? Who knows? I have the ENT flush them out every time I see him - that should be part of your exam anyway. There is no way to do this yourself by the way...
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Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OP Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | I should have clarified that my ENT recommended using the Q tip to apply a light coating of baby oil/mineral oil. She explained that indeed just using a Q tip to try and clean them does tend to push some wax in deeper and overenthusiastic users can even rupture their ear drums. That's the reason all the ENTs and even the Q tip company itself say don't put them inside your ears. However, in her practice with oral cancer survivors, she has noticed that the ear(s) with direct radiation have excessively dry skin tissue that is connected with excessive ear wax production. Lightly skimming the ear with oil ameliorates this and can keep down the ear wax buildup. I noticed that the NIH webpage on ear wax repeats the Q tip prohibition but does recommend using Baby oil, Glycerin and Mineral oil to soften wax and keep it from impacting but is silent on radiation damage and how to mitigate it. Charm 65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | I'll have to try that Charm my skin really took a hit from the radiation in general.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2 Member | Member Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2 | I have had ear wax problems for years. After treatment my ear,nose throat doc complained about my ear wax, he cleaned them out with what felt like a 10 penny nail. he then told me to mix a solution of 1 part rubbing alcohol 1 part white vinegar. i have it in small spray bottle and use it in the shower once per week and my ears are very good to go. i stopped using Q-tips.
Stage 4 throat cancer, treatment began 2/2011 ended 7/2011 6weeks radiation, combo 6 months cemo, lost 65 lbs. became addicted to morphine, oxycotten, oxycodon, this was as bad as the actual treatments, kicked the dope in spite of those dam nurses.
| | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 440 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 440 | I couldn't help but laugh, I get so embarrassed when my ENT pulls out globs of ear wax out of my right ear, I do clean them and find myself always picking at my ear, I probably need to apply some oil. Thanks for the tip!
Dx 3/27/09 @ 28 years old with High Grade MEC T4N2M0 Elizabeth, 33, mother of 3 girls (4,7, &8yrs old) 3 rds of chemo(Carbo/Taxol) Rt Mandibulectomy, rt fibular flap,& rt ND with trach, picc,& g-tube. 30 rds of rads with weekly cisplatin SCANS ALL CLEAR! OCF Regional Coordinator of San Antonio Walk
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