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Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 253 | Disclaimer: I am DEFINITELY NOT advocating alternate cancer treatments.
As many of you know, I like to poke around on the interent, and I also love a good discussion. So here it goes: Link deleted
This is an alternative therapy, but what makes it interesting, is that Dr. Anderson was interested it some aspects of it. It is also inpressive that the tradiational cancer researchers are now investigating immunology.
Love to know your thoughts???
Sandy S.
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Sandy 56, BOT SCC Biopsy 1/21/09 Stage 3, T3NXM0.
Finished 3 cycle induction chemotherapy 4/7/09. (Chisplatin, 5-fu and Texotere). Re-staged 4/20/09,(very successful.) Will start Carboplatin/radiation 2 Gy/5 days/7 weeks (Tomotherapy) starting May 4th. Finished 6/22/09.
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Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 54 | I knew a nurse with breast cancer with metast.. who went to Mexico to a Cancer Hospital for treatment. It too was just across the border. After spending ? thousands she came home. She died several months later. I always thought she should have spent the time with her husband and children. For the cost incured they could have taken a trip. Making memories.
Makes me think of Dr.Kellog and his clinic. Enema, anyone.
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2/09 MEC Rt Submandibular Gland,Tumor Exc,age 68; 4/09 Rt Neck Resect, Excise Rt Lingual Nerve, 10 nodes; 1 month later- Lge Abscess Drained 5/09; 4 more cancers, final path report; 6/09 IMRTx33
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Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 253 | Sweetpea: I am certainly not advocating for anyone to use an alternative therapy. I personally don't believe they work.
But what made me curious about this site is the comments from Dr. Anderson. I just wanted to start a discussion about this site and the prospect of immunology to cure cancer as a scientific tool.
Thanks
Sandy S.
Sandy 56, BOT SCC Biopsy 1/21/09 Stage 3, T3NXM0.
Finished 3 cycle induction chemotherapy 4/7/09. (Chisplatin, 5-fu and Texotere). Re-staged 4/20/09,(very successful.) Will start Carboplatin/radiation 2 Gy/5 days/7 weeks (Tomotherapy) starting May 4th. Finished 6/22/09.
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Joined: May 2007 Posts: 666 | Sandy Immunology has always been a part of the treatment equation whether implicit or not. For that matter you could call the use of MABs (Herceptin, Erbitux etc) immunological. If you look at this in more detail a lot of it is supplements and vitamins... see also the definition of Orthomolecular. It is not clear to me what the treatment actually is, so many things are listed.... For example, how do the make vaccines (against what) ... and in what timeframe? etc. M
Partial glossectomy (25%) anterior tongue. 4/6/07/. IMRT start @5/24/07 (3x) Erbitux start/end@ 5/24/07. IMRT wider field (30x) start 6/5/07. Weekly cisplatin (2x30mg/m2), then weekly carbo- (5x180mg/m2). End of Tx 19 July 07.
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Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 253 | Hi Again Everyone.
This is a very good example of not doing all your research!
I commented on the Issel Center/Immunology because of the Anderson MD comments regarding the center. I ASSUMED (you know what that means) that Anderson, meant Anderson Cancer Center in Texas. Stupid me!!!
Sorry
Sandy S.
Sandy 56, BOT SCC Biopsy 1/21/09 Stage 3, T3NXM0.
Finished 3 cycle induction chemotherapy 4/7/09. (Chisplatin, 5-fu and Texotere). Re-staged 4/20/09,(very successful.) Will start Carboplatin/radiation 2 Gy/5 days/7 weeks (Tomotherapy) starting May 4th. Finished 6/22/09.
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Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | You did post it as Dr. Anderson. LOL We all make mistakes.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
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Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,912 Likes: 52 | Sandy - please do not post links here to these kinds of unsubstantiated treatment protocols or centers. We work hard to keep GOOD information in people's reach, and this only confuses the matter with unproven, unsubstantiated, bogus, or at best outdated, ideas. I am deleting the link from your original post.
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant.
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Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 253 | Brian:
Thank you. As I mentioned earlier I made a mistake thinking that this program had been investigated by the Anderson Center.
I'm sorry. I'm glad you deleted the post. I wouldn't want to direct people to this type of treatment.
Thanks
Sandy S.
Sandy 56, BOT SCC Biopsy 1/21/09 Stage 3, T3NXM0.
Finished 3 cycle induction chemotherapy 4/7/09. (Chisplatin, 5-fu and Texotere). Re-staged 4/20/09,(very successful.) Will start Carboplatin/radiation 2 Gy/5 days/7 weeks (Tomotherapy) starting May 4th. Finished 6/22/09.
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Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 507 | FYI
The MD Anderson Cancer Research Center was established in the early 1940's using monies that had been left by Monroe Dunaway Anderson in a chartiable foundation. Monroe was a rich Texas Cotton Baron and left his fortune to his foundation.
Don
TXN2bM0 Stage IVa SCC-Occult Primary
FNA 6/6/08-SCC in node<2cm
PET/CT 6/19/08-SCC in 2nd node<1cm
HiRes CT 6/21/08
Exploratory,Tonsillectomy(benign),Right SND 6/23/08
PEG 7/3/08-11/6/08
35 TomoTherapy 7/16/08-9/04/08 No Chemo
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Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Sandy Your curiosity will probably bring you to a lot of other bogus "alternative" sites like the terrible Issel clinic you wanted to "discuss". I know you meant well but why not first check with Quack watch on bogus cancer treatments. Here is the link; Special Message on Fake cancer cures Issel is listed but the tip off should have been it's in Tijuana Mexico - numero uno for ripping off US cancer patient. Maybe the greedy doctor will now start peddling a fake cure for the Swine Flu but Mexicans are probably too smart to fall for a local con man. The articles on Quack Watch really spell it out and are worth reading.
65 yr Old Frack
Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+
2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG
2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery
25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin
Apaghia /G button
2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa
40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin
Passed away 4-29-13
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