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Christine,
I am 8 months out of treatment and I just got thrush! You are right it can be painful. I had thrush while in treatment also. Currently, I am taking diflucon 100 mg once a day. Seems to be helping. I still have it though, but not as bad. I still have 5 more pills left to take. Are we prone to thrush mouth? Is that because the mouth is dry? I was just wondering because when I got thrush this last time I was very scared that something else was going on. Take care.


Partial Glossectomy 12/06, stage 1 SCC, right side
11/07,stage III SCC in right side of neck 12/07, Modified neck dissection,48 lymph nodes removed,neg. 1/14/08 startedChemo-cisplatin once a week for 5 weeks, Radiation everyday for 5 weeks.Finished treatment 2/15/08. Cancer returned,sugery 4/5/10.
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Debbie, Christine, Angel, and the rest,

Just thought I'd weigh in here with some hope. I had thrush only once and that was during treatment. I'm 2 years out now with a VERY dry mouth, and still no thrush, so I don't know about how much more likely we are to get it, but at least know it's not a "given" that you're doomed to a lifetime of it.

Lani


SCC part glossectomy 3/06, recur 8/06 glossectomy, floor of mouth, part of jaw removed, RT/chemo thru 10/12/06, PET clear 7/08
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Passed away 12/14/08
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Christine,
I had the same increase in my sense of smell a few months after radiation. It was wodnerful. Everything smelled so fresh and clean that spring. Food smelled marvelous, and even though there were and still many things I couldn't eat, it certainly helped my ability to eat and probably helped my taste recover.

As to thrush, one is likely to get a flare up every time you take an antibiotic. I use to take Diflucan with the antibiotic to prevent it. Thrush feeds on sugars. A dentist told me to avoid eating anything white because of the sugar in the carbohydrates. It affects your taste, brushing your tongue lightly with a soft tooth brush helps. It's also a bitch to get rid of. One of the many joys of having radiation.

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Eileen


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Aug 1997 unknown primary, Stage III
mets to 1 lymph node in neck; rt ND, 36 XRT rad
Aug 2001 tiny tumor on larynx, Stage I total laryngectomy; left ND
June 5, 2010 dx early stage breast cancer
June 9, 2011 SCC 1.5 cm hypo pharynx, 70% P-16 positive, no mets, Stage I
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Not having had the problem, I hadn't looked into thrush until now. I was just looking around on some sites and learned a lot about it. I'm sure this site probably has a ton of info on it, but I'm sure you all already looked there, and I'm stuck inside today with not much to do anyway in this bone-chilling 60 degree weather. smile

Though we are at very high risk during and right after treatment, it seems the risk lessens as our immune systems recover. Many OC survivors suffer from problems with malnutrition which contributes to rhe risk. The mouth dryness is a factor, too. Maybe Biotene products can help there. Sugar, as Eileen mentioned, feeds the yeasy fungus, as do breads and other carbohydrates. And antibiotics kill the bacteria, etc, that keep it under control, so taking something to counteract that with them makes sense.

The sites I saw all recommended uncultured yogurt (yech), so if you can stomach it....

There's a lot more that I'm sure I'm forgetting in this post - I blame my rad/chemo brain memory - but that's a lot of it. It did say that HIV and cancer patients have the danger of it spreading down the esophogus and hitting organs, like the kidneys and liver, so treating it quickly when it does rear its ugly head would be very important.

Hope this helps some.

Lani


SCC part glossectomy 3/06, recur 8/06 glossectomy, floor of mouth, part of jaw removed, RT/chemo thru 10/12/06, PET clear 7/08
"A bend in the road is not the end of the road, unless you fail to make the turn"
Passed away 12/14/08
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Angel, very typical for your tongue to be anything but pink where you're at in treatement and it will take a while thereafter to recover. Radiation kills the taste buds which I believe are located on the top surface of the tongue. I got thrush a few months after tx and it was pretty nasty. Had to go back to magic mouth wash and an antibiotic to clear. Hang in there.


Bill . . . SCC - originated in right tonsil, drifted into neck ( 28 lymph nodes removed - one positive ). Radical neck dissection in September 07, completed 34 radiation tx on January 4, 2008. Used Peg. Non smoker, 61, good shape, no previous health issues. Second year PET scan - "all clear".
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I never had to deal with thrush and I'm over 2 years out.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Nor I, at more than 2.75 years out.


Age 67 1/2
Ventral Tongue SCC T2N0M0G1 10/05
Anterior Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 6/08
Base of Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 12/08
Three partial glossectomy (10/05,11/05,6/08), PEG, 37 XRT 66.6 Gy 1/06
Neck dissection, trach, PEG & forearm free flap (6/08)
Total glossectomy, trach, PEG & thigh free flap (12/08)
On August 21, 2010 at 9:20 am, Pete went off to play with the ratties in the sky.
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I had one bout with it post surgery. It was painful but I attributed the discomfort to losing a hunk of tongue. Went in for my first follow up and got nystatin and was cleared up in a day or two and so was the pain. Never could understand why a yeast infection hurt but what's life without a little mystery. 18 months later no more thrush incidences and I've had the joy of being on antibiotics once or twice in that time without bringing it back. My guess is like everything else we all react a little differently.

Susan


Cancer of Tongue, SCC early Stage 1, Dx 3/13/07, partial glossectomy 4/14/07 found no residual carcinoma and a granular cell tumor with pseudo epitheliomatous hyperplasia.
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Thank you all for the information. I gotta tell you, this stuff is yucky and the sides of my mouth burn like crazy and I haven't been able to use my flouride due to the burning.

The Dr. gave me 2 prescriptions, Nystatin (swish and swallow), and Flyconazole (pills). I do believe the nistatin makes me have nausea bad and I am still waiting for one of my nausea pills to get pre approved. But I have been luck and have not thrown up, just get sick at my stomach. Hope everyone has a great day tomorrow.

Btw, I have been driving myself to radiation lately. Angel


SCC left tonsil, tonsillectomy with additional tissue removed 06/10/08, a few teeth on top left side removed 09/05/08,recurrence before treatment started at BOT and tonsil area, 35 IMRT treatments began 10/15/08, and Cisplatin IV (began10/16/08) weekly for duration of radiation.
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I drove myself to radiation (Forty miles) until the very last few when a friend insisted that he drive me, so I acquiesced -- I've learned that it's good for the other people if they can assist in some way, however small (Hard for me to do because I am sometimes a very stubborn and independent cuss...).


Age 67 1/2
Ventral Tongue SCC T2N0M0G1 10/05
Anterior Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 6/08
Base of Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 12/08
Three partial glossectomy (10/05,11/05,6/08), PEG, 37 XRT 66.6 Gy 1/06
Neck dissection, trach, PEG & forearm free flap (6/08)
Total glossectomy, trach, PEG & thigh free flap (12/08)
On August 21, 2010 at 9:20 am, Pete went off to play with the ratties in the sky.
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