#51799 11-25-2006 03:55 AM | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 46 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP  Contributing Member (25+ posts)
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 46 | In the record-keeping, how do you typically count products like Boost, Ensure, or the Carnation VHC? Do you count it as both ounces toward liquid intake as well as calories?
Thanks,
Loretta
C/G to husband SCC of right tonsil, Dx 5/02. Tx concurrent rad with Taxol and Cisplatin. Consolidation therapy Cisplatin and 5-FU. Recurrence 9/06, neck dissection 10/06. Tx with twice daily radiation; two in-patient infusions of Cisplatin.
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#51800 11-25-2006 04:34 AM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts)
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | I only counted the calories. On the VHC can it states that it counts as "1 unit of water". I asked my nutrition what that means and she said "not much, you still need to drink all the water we told you". I thought to myself, Oh well, I tried!
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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#51801 11-25-2006 05:20 AM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 137 Senior Member (100+ posts) | | Senior Member (100+ posts)
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 137 | During the 4 1/2 months or so I lived exclusively on liquids, I only counted the calories. I could only drink the Ensure warm and it was so nasty I had to chase every glug with a glug of water, so I got plenty of liquid.
dx 2/13/06. modified radical neck dissection 3/9/06 multiple biopsies of upper airway and direct laryngoscopy. 1 of 47 lymph nodes positive for metastatic undifferentiated carcinoma (lymphoepithelioma). Unknown primary. Finished radiation 5/24/06.
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#51802 11-25-2006 02:43 PM | Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts)
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 | Now that's interesting. I could only drink the Ensure Plus ice cold. Anything else was nasty tasting. Still drink a half bottle of Ensure Plus for a quick breakfast. A real breakfast was a meal I never eat except on Sundays. Water also had to be ice cold. Everything else had to be lukewarm.
Which is back to where we always are. Everyone is different. So don't give up and keep trying til you find what works for you. And if that stops working, try something else. Everyday is also different.
Take care,
Eileen
P.S. I only counted calories and protein content.
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Aug 1997 unknown primary, Stage III
mets to 1 lymph node in neck; rt ND, 36 XRT rad
Aug 2001 tiny tumor on larynx, Stage I total laryngectomy; left ND
June 5, 2010 dx early stage breast cancer
June 9, 2011 SCC 1.5 cm hypo pharynx, 70% P-16 positive, no mets, Stage I
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#51803 11-25-2006 04:06 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,676 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts)
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,676 | When John takes a 2CalHN [475 cals} he always chases it with 8 oz. plus of water to clean the tube- counting calories and the h2o. When he does grape juice or any juice- he counts the calories and the ozs. of juice[liquid].
CGtoJohn:SCC Flr of Mouth.Dx 3\05. Surg.4\05.T3NOMO.IMRTx30. Recur Dx 1\06.Surg 2\06. Chemo: 4 Cycles of Carbo\Taxol:on Erbitux for 7 mo. Lost our battle 2-23-07- But not the will to fight this disease
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