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#48298 06-10-2007 06:53 PM
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This is not a happy ending just to warn everyone. I just got back from Santa Barbara - I live about nine hours north in Mendocino. I had my dad fly to California, with my cousin who is an RT- she came as his nurse, for some cancer treatment. He was coming to do some immunotherapy treatments and then was going back to Atlanta for another round of chemo. He found out two days before he flew that his SCC in the base of tounge, tonsil, palate, had moved to his lungs. They said they saw a noddule, and I thought at least we foud it early. The oral stuff has been my main concern. Then he wakes up a day before he is leaving and his face is swollen, eyes shut, nose closing up, and is rushed to the hospital. He is given some solumedrole (spelling?) and swelling goes down and he gets on then plane. He was eager to get over here to get the immunotherapy. Well he flys on a Thursday and is in the clinic here Friday and starts treatment. He likes the doctors and is ready to kick butt. The clinic closes over the weekend and that Monday is Memorial Day. He wakes up Tuesday morning and his head looks like a watermellon. His nurse takes him to clinic and they tell her take him to ER. ER does some scans and releases him. I arrive that night. I meet my dad 7am next morning at clinic because I am going to sit with him all day and want to check out the clinic and meet doctors. When I walk in I am looking around and I can't find my dad. Then my cousin calls my name and I look back to where I was just looking and there is my dad. I walk over and say "Hey dad you made it!" and say "I am going to find your doctor", my cousin walks out with me and I fall to pieces. Nothing could have prepared me for what has happened to my dad. I just flew to Atlanta a few weeks ago and he was just out of surgery but doing ok. I didn't think the big tumors on his neck were shocking back then-like I didn't notice and was so glad I still had him alive. This was so different. I pulled it togther and go back in- give him a big hug and tell him I am going to get the best doctors and whatever he needs to get better. He was so upset and scared when I was looking at him and holding his hand -he just shook his head no. He didn't want me to see him like that.
I talk to the doctors and they tell me that after they reviewed the scans they came to the conclusion that the tumors are squeezing around the jugular -thats the good side- and the other side is accluted. No cirrculation. Maybe even during the last surgery artery was removed. Fluid is getting trapped causing 'pumpkin head syndrome'. They tell me if his head and neck swell any more his blood flow will be cut off to the brain. He is in danger of having a stroke. They cannot put in a stint. So we get him on prednisone, cut back fluids, start lasiks, and call VA to find out what they gave him in Atlanta when he first began to swell. The doctors call the VA like 40 times and we have to keep signing med release forms- which we did before he flew out- they finally tell us it was the solumederole. We get everything back to somewhat normal and do treatments for a few days. 5am I get a call(I am in a hotel down the road) my dad is getting rushed to the ER because he pulled out his trach and RT can't get it back in. At the ER a doctor pulls me aside. I tell him dads trach is like 3 weeks in and he is not used to it yet. He won't use inner cannuals because he feels it takes up space in trach and he can't breath as good. He also has this thing that he thinks trach is got mucus always in it so he pulls it out 3-4 times a day for us to clean. He is his own worse enemy but I understand the whole thing. It is so sad. SO doc tells me to come looks at scans -this is a first- these doctors in Santa Barbara are great. I am looking at the lung scan-xray- looking for the noddule that the VA was talking about- that they never showed us- we never saw- and I can't find it. Then he says "Ma'am it is right there that white area". I could not believe my eyes. It was the size of a lemon. It was like standing infront of a hurricane knowing this is it there is nothing you can do. This is why he pulled trach out in the middle of the night. He can't breath because the tumor in the lung is pressing on the bronchial tubes, but he had no idea what was happening. In the next two days- back at home(at apartment the clinic rented for us) he comes down with pneumonia-they are not sure it totally cleared up from a month ago- and staph infection. His blood pressure is going haywire, potassium and magnessium are depleated, dehydration, needs a blood transfusion, can't talk, write, and articulate complete toughts or sentences, and the neck and face swelling out of control again. He goes back to ER and admitted into ICU where he still is as of now. The doctors tell me he will not be going back to Atlanta. They tell me to contact Hospice. I am not ready for this. I would not have had him come here if I knew he was this sick. He wanted a miracle to happen by coming here. I don't think he knew he was that sick. I don't think the VA explained it to him- or maybe they did. Nobody knows. I have neve seen anyone get this sick so fast. This cancer is so aggressive I can barely grasp my head around it.
My dads sister and brother are flying in.
I had to come back to home after I got him setteled in ICU because my daughter ended up in the hospital(kidneys) while I was away and my housesitter had to go. He was so sweet. I said "Dad I have to go my kids need me, I'll be back in a few days. You are in good hands and the doctors from the clinic are coming here to see you and the doctors at the hospital. Darcy is here(his niece and 24hr nurse). Your gonna feel better in a few days. I love you" He did the yellow pages finger do the walking thing like -Get outta here, I'm fine. He is the stongest guy I've every known. I cried the whole way home for nine hours. I had no idea this was going to happen. I thought he'll be in this great clinic with a great view of the beach- like a vacation. I thought he'd be a new guy after 3 weeks. Now he is going to pass away. Well this will now be considered the worst two weeks ever for me and my dad. The doctors say it is going to be day by day. I am at home with my 5 kids. It is their last week of school. My husband is out of town. I feel helpless. I want to get in my car and drive as fast as I can. Everytime the phone rings my heart stops. The inevitable is near. I am going back down in a few days and I will be with him till the end. I hope he can wait for me. Just an update. I wish I had better news but I don't. Talk to everyone soon. My prayers are with everyone.


karen and dad
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Karen

My heart goes out to you. You have done everything in you power to help your Dad and he knows this, everyone knows this.

Hospice will take very good care of him and they will make sure he has no pain and will be as comfortable as possible. What you both have endured is incomprehensible.

Keep your faith strong and remember that this is not the end of his life. He will always live through his children and grandchildren.

He will soon begin a new life in a utopia where there is no pain and suffering. He will live on in absolute joy and happiness.

I am sending you my love and understanding. Petey


DX 3-21-07 L tongue,SCC Stage IV (T3N2MO) TX Slash/Burn/Poison Method.
***Rapid Aggressive Recurrence 8-4-07 with same DX/TX. Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. Never Give Up! ****UPDATE**** Our dear friend Petey passed away, RIP 9-2-07
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Karen in the absence of any words of comfort for you,all i can say is how sorry i am for you and your family,and i hope your Dad finds the pain free peace he deserves after such a heroic struggle

God Bless you all


Liz in the UK

Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007
Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.

Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
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I'm so sorry, Karen, for the struggle you and your Dad have both had to endure. You have both been so courageous throughout all of this - your Dad seems like such a great guy. Stay close to those around you so that you can get the peace and comfort you so deserve. My thoughts and prayers are with you.


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CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)



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I lost both of my parents to sudden accidents. The worst thing for me was not having the opportunity to tell them I love them and goodbye. Your situation is so very tough and I can't say I understand but I run the thought through my head everytime I read someones post that is facing this knowing I may someday be in your dad's shoes. For that matter I could be in your shoes as well. I always wonder what I would tell my wife and son and other relatives to ease their minds. I don't know and probably won't unless I'm in that position, but I think it would be much worse to be away from each other. Again the whole situation is very hard but maybe it is paradise because you will get to be with him. You are in my thoughts and prayers. Lee


Lee, age 33, stage 4a, T2N2bM0, Tumor left tonsil (removed), 2 left side nodes removed (poorly differientiatied)total of 3 nodes involved. Treatment IMRT x33/ 2x Cysplatin completed. Good Health and Good Help to you.
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Karen....Love lives on. Hugs, dear lady. JaneP


Husband: 3 SCC gum and cheek cancers 2002, 2005, 2006: surgery only. Scans clear after removal of small, well differentiated, non-invasive cancers. No radiation. 4th SCC lip diagnosed 4/13/07 - in situ, removed in biopsy. More lip removed 2/8/08 - dysplasia. 2 Biopsies 3/17/09 no cancer (lichenoids)
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Can only say I'm thinking of you and send cyber-hugs and love
Brenda x


Brenda in UK--Diagnosis 30/5/07--undifferentiated carcinoma in right jawbone and muscles. Stage 4
6/7/07--new diagnosis primary is in lung. Finished 4cycles of palliative carboplatin/gemcitabine
therapy September 07
Now dying to live!
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Karen
My thoughts are with you my husband is also in the hospital having a difficult time fighting this monster having similar problems malnutritiona depleted magnesium and potassium, blod clots his body is just saying enough is enough. I know how difficult this is for you. I will keep you and your Dad in my prayers.
Hang in there
B


BOT stage IV SCC moderately diff, invasive. radiation 2 chemos. DX 06/06. Ended radiation 8/11/06. Bleed out from tonsil area from radiation necrosis 10/27/06.
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Karen,

Your Father, you and your family are in my prayers. I will pray for your Dad, exactly as I prayed for Aunt Rosemary, that he have peace of mind and heart and no fear. I know it's terribly hard and heartbreaking, but try to be strong. Love will get you through it.

Hugs,
Lisa


Niece to Aunt Ro- Dx: 4/03. SCC Stg 4 BOT with mets to fl of mth & crvcl lymph node. AdenoC 1 sal gland. Two add. reconstrc. surgeries for adhesions. Recurrence 7/06- Sub-Mand AdenoC. Mets to both lungs. Lost her battle 5/4/07.
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Lisa, much love to you and yours.
Minnie


SCC Left Mandible. Jaw replaced with bone from leg. Neck disection, 37 radiation treatments. Recurrence 8-28-07, stage 2, tongue. One third of tongue removed 10-4-07. 5-23-08 chemo started for tumor behind swallowing passage, Our good friend and much loved OCF member Minnie has been lost to the disease (RIP 10-29-08). We will all miss her greatly.
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Karen, I do not have the right words, but I am praying for your Dad and your family....Love, Carol


Diagnosed May 2002 with Stage IV tongue cancer, two lymph nodes positive. Surgery to remove 1/2 tongue, neck dissection, 35 radiation treatments. 11/2007, diagnosed with cancer of soft palate, surgery 12/14/07, jaw split. 3/24/10, cancer on tongue behind flap, need petscan, surgery scheduled 4/16/10
---update passed away 8-27-11---
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Karen, I am so sorry things are going so poorly for your Dad. As to him pulling out the trach because of mucous, I can understand. I have had a permanent trach since 2001 and still cough up huge blobs of mucous several times a day though my neck. If I don't clear it, I couldn't breath. It's a survival instinct. I don't know what else to say. It's all so sad. Will they still try the therapy if they can get things under control?

Take care,
Eileen


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Aug 1997 unknown primary, Stage III
mets to 1 lymph node in neck; rt ND, 36 XRT rad
Aug 2001 tiny tumor on larynx, Stage I total laryngectomy; left ND
June 5, 2010 dx early stage breast cancer
June 9, 2011 SCC 1.5 cm hypo pharynx, 70% P-16 positive, no mets, Stage I
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karen,

I'm very sorry to hear that your father's cancer has progressed so far. I lost my father to cancer a little over a year ago. And someday I may be in your father's position. All I can say is my father knew I loved him on the day he passed and my son knows that I love him each and everyday we have together now. Your father knows how much you love him.

Stay stong and I'm praying for you both right now.

Tim


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60 yr old. Dx Jun 06 with BOT Stage IV. Neck dissesction on 19 Jun 06. Started Tx on 21 Aug 06/completed 33 IMRTs and 3 CT (2 Cisplat & 1 Carboplat) on 5 Oct 06.
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karen,


This is a horrible disease ..that affects so much more then our bodies.....Sadly ..to me .that is the easiet part of it. It is what it does mentally and emotionally to us and those who love us that are soooooo hard to deal with . I am sending you my prayers and thoughts to you and your dad and the rest of your family. Dont ever think for one minute that you coulda done more..you have gone so far and above and you have amazed us all ..but even more ..I am even WILLING TO BET MY LIFE ON IT ( which isnt so smart right now with chance of reccurence) ..THAT YOU HAVE MADE YOUR DAD SOOOOOO EXTREMLEY PROUD !!! So may you find comfort in that .. Hug your children and hug your dad ! And I am sending you ((((HUGS)))))
I wish i could say somthing to make it go away for you , you have been through so much ,,Just know that we here are all thinkin of you and praying for you and your dad and you entire family.

Shar


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35 year old Female Non smoker, very occasional alcohol ..Scc T1N0M0,partial glossectomy and left neck disection ,2/9/07 No rad deemed ness. 4/16 tonsillectomy ..Trimengenial Neuralga due to surgery
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Karen,

I don't usually post...just read. Having followed your story I feel as if I know you and your dad and was compelled to write. I am so sorry for what you, your dad and family are going through. I will be thinking of you and saying a prayer for you both. He is very lucky to have you as his daughter and friend.

Michelle


Daughter of mom, Charlie, 64, Stage III/IVa left tonsil and one lymph node. Cisplatin with pump and 30 radiation treatments
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My heart goes out to you both, through the tears running down my face after reading your post. Please know that we all care, and are praying for you and your family.

Betty


Squamous Cell Carcinoma of tongue, stage II due to size >3mm, nothing seen in neck on CT scan. Radiation started in Jan 07. Completed 2/26/07. Recurrance confirmed 8/07.
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Karen,
I sent you a PM. God bless you and your family.


Donna
CG to Mom, dx 4/25/07 with tongue cancer,T3N0,tx began 7/6/07, 31 tx's of IMRT, 8 cycles of Erbitux. Brachytherapy, surgery, left neck dissection and temp trach placed all on 9/17/07, trach removed 10/17/07. ORN of jaw, late effect of radiation symptoms. **lost my beautiful mother on 5/5/11.
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