#26401 05-14-2004 10:30 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 102 Senior Member (100+ posts) | OP Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 102 | Hi all! Just wanted to some opinions on this and to see if anyone else has experienced it. My husband is almost four years post diagnosis. Within the last two weeks he started having trouble opening his mouth. Looked inside and on the side he had tonsil cancer on, on what I would guess would be called the arch of the soft palate, it looks really stretched tight and white. He went to see an ENT today and they told him it looks like fibrosis from the radiation damage. Do any of you have any knowledge of this and what should be done to help? Thanks! Julie
Julie Wife to Kelly SSC tonsil Stage IV July 2000
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#26402 05-14-2004 11:28 AM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | First of all congratulations on 4 years of survivorship!
I only have 14 months myself, post Tx, but my radiologist warned me about a permanent "texturing" of the muscles in the radiation field prior to treatment. There is definitely, what I would suspect, permanent damage in certain areas. It doesn't seem to be improving so I am assuming that it is part of the "new normal". I have also noticed that the area in the back of my throat is not a dark pink as it once was, tending to be lighter, almost white. I also no longer have a Uvula - it was toasted during the radiation. I don't have trouble opening my mouth (my wife would love to hear me say that!) but I have always had some pain while yawning.
I also had IMRT which may have lessened the damage to a more tolerable level.
Mark has over three years maybe he has some thoughts on this.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
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#26403 05-17-2004 11:27 AM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 156 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 156 | Before treatment began, I had to sign a waiver stating fibrosis was a possible side effect of radiation. At that time, I used google to search for "radiation cancer fibrosis", and did find some material that helped me understand it more. It is was what Gary explained, but a google search may go into further depth.
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#26404 05-17-2004 11:36 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 102 Senior Member (100+ posts) | OP Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 102 | Thanks Gary & Sabrina. Have you heard of any treatments that can lessen the severity of it? It is not real bad so far, but since it just showed up four years post treatment, if it continues to worsen I am worried he will have difficulty eating. Thanks again! Julie
Julie Wife to Kelly SSC tonsil Stage IV July 2000
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#26405 05-18-2004 07:26 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 162 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 162 | The only thing I've heard of to help mitigate this is stretching the muscles that were radiated. I'm coming up on six months post-treatment and I can feel the muscles in my neck and jaw trying to tighten up. I stretch these muscles several times a day.
To stretch my jaw: I simply open my mouth as wide as it will and then stick my tongue as far as it will go. Of course, this looks silly, but I don't care.
To stretch my neck: While keeping my mouth closed I look up as far as I can. Then while still looking up, I look to the left and to the right. This is usually painful, but I really don't want to lose any more mobility in my neck.
Hope this helps.
-Brett
Base of Tongue SCC. Stage IV, T1N2bM0. Diagnosed 25 July 2003. Treated with 6 weeks induction chemo -- Taxol & Carboplatin once a week followed with 30 fractions IMRT, 10 fields per fraction over 6 more weeks. Recurrence October 2005.
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#26406 05-18-2004 09:31 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | Brett,
Thanks for the instructional post! I am doing them in between typing and I will remind myself daily and often through the day. I would add the isometric neck stretches. Place your hand on the right side of your head and push your head towards your hand for 10 seconds. Repeat on the other side, then repeat with your hand on your forehead and the back of your head.
Ed
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
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#26407 05-18-2004 12:32 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 102 Senior Member (100+ posts) | OP Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 102 | Brett & Ed, Thanks for the instructions. I remember when we were going through radiation there were swallowing and mouth exercises he had to do everyday, I guess doing those would be good too. Thanks again! Julie
Julie Wife to Kelly SSC tonsil Stage IV July 2000
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#26408 05-18-2004 12:54 PM | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,163 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,163 | Hi Julie,
I am 10 months post-op and 7 months post IMRT radiation. My neck muscles seem tight most of the time. I also have a restricted mouth opening. I can open to about 30mm. Normal mouth opening according to my dentist is 50mm. I open my mouth as far as I can and hold it for 6 to 10 seconds just to keep what I have. I do this several times per day. Driving down the road if anyone looked it must look odd. Eating is getting easier but I still have trouble swallowing. Have to keep a bottle of water handy to help flush the food down. I tend to eat alot of soft foods and I know I'm lighter than when I was using the feeding tube. I just can't input the amount of calories I was when using the tube. I also had physical theraphy help with the mouth opening. Keep stretching the muscles everyday and it shouldn't get worse.
Dan
Daniel Bogan DX 7/16/03 Right tonsil,SCC T4NOMO. right side neck disection, IMRT Radiation x 33.
Recurrance in June 05 in right tonsil area. Now receiving palliative chemo (Erbitux) starting 3/9/06
Our good friend and loved member of the forum has passed away RIP Dannyboy 7-16-2006
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