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ShellAustralia1978 #179896 05-05-2014 08:29 AM
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I went to the link but it requires one to sign up for a new account with login and PW and since I already have too many ads coming to me from every place I've already signed up for I went instead to OCF's collection of articles on Oral Cancer and it's relationship to alcohol here:

'http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/search.php?cx=015422755131303034108%3Ao3fylifwmag&cof=FORID%3A11&q=alcohol%2Boral+cancer&sa=Search&siteurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oralcancerfoundation.org%2F





Anne-Marie
CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)



ShellAustralia1978 #179897 05-05-2014 08:43 AM
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This is a new article, posted on April 30th, 2014, which may be part and parcel of previous studies.


10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
10/13 TBO/Angiograph
10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI
12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site
06/17 Heart Attack Stent
02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs






ShellAustralia1978 #179904 05-05-2014 02:10 PM
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Funny how this one pops back up. I reread it and see I posted 10 months ago. I'm having a drink now and then and not worried. My cancer was HPV, a virus, not related to the tobacco-alcohol variety of OC. I guess I could get that sort of OC but my surgeon last week just said that it is the combination that is really evil.

Gotta live a bit and risk seems a lot lower than getting struck by many other life events. Just my view. Don


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Male, 57 - Great health except C
Dec '12
DX: BOT SCC T2N2bMx, Stage 4a, HPV+, multiple nodes
1 tooth out
Jan '13
2nd tooth out
Tumor Board -induction TPF (3 cycles), seq CRT
4-6/2013
CRT 70gr 2x35, weekly carbo150
ended 5/29,6/4
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donfoo #179908 05-05-2014 04:09 PM
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The reason it resurfaced was that I replied to a post today that contained a comment about alcohol, and saw this recent abstract in one of the head and neck cancer news feeds today also, so mentioned I was going to post it in the discussion about a year ago, this is one, in case anyone had interest, finding it interesting reading myself, some backing up prior readings, new and not so new information, but it did not get into HPV etiology, which I always said was different cause. Nothing more or less, no judgements here. Actually, I didn't see the OCF Alcohol content Anne-Marie posted, as is, before, but seems most info is the same as the article, and is sourced from 2014.


10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
10/13 TBO/Angiograph
10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI
12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site
06/17 Heart Attack Stent
02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs






ShellAustralia1978 #179914 05-05-2014 05:29 PM
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Driving is dangerous (especially in Dallas)
Flying is dangerous
Sun exposure is dangerous
Poultry is dicey
Too much beef will jack up cholesterol

If I sat on my couch eating green leafy vegetables I wonder how long I would live. And if I would consider my risk avoidance as a "life". There are certainly reasons to avoid the above and alcohol, too.

Three beers give me a headache so I never have more than two. I don't begrudge anyone the decision to abstain either. I don't think a couple of beers will shorten my life. I don't think abstaining will extend it.


Dx March 2011 via FNA (49 yrs old)
SCC BoT
HPV+ exact strain unknown
Stage IVa T3N2cM0
Cisplatin x 3, IMRT x 40 (7267 cGy)
One node removed post-treatment (rad dmg)
Clean PET 10/28/11
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ShellAustralia1978 #179919 05-05-2014 06:31 PM
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I couldn't care less who drinks, doesn't drink or whatever else they do or don't do either.


10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
10/13 TBO/Angiograph
10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI
12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site
06/17 Heart Attack Stent
02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs






ShellAustralia1978 #179921 05-05-2014 07:18 PM
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Sorry about the link I posted, I had copied it from the results of a search I did on the OCF main page. When I pasted it it came up with the extremely long url and when I tried it from that long link above it yielded an error page. I should have checked the link before posting. So-o-o-o-o maybe the best way to see a whole collection of news articles about the alcohol/OC connection would be to go to the OCF main page and use the search box found there. I got the articles by searching for "Alcohol + Oral Cancer". There are several listed such as "The Alcohol Connection", "Risk Factors", " Alcohol as a Cause", etc. in case anyone is interested.


Anne-Marie
CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)



Anne-Marie #179924 05-05-2014 07:35 PM
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No worries Ann-Marie, I'm glad you did post it, and I was able to open it. I know OCF has udpaded many main page topics, I now refer to, but didn't see this one for alcohol, which is quite extensive, and didn't read it until I arrived home this evening. I did check oral cancer news before posting my link, but didn't see any recent topics, but should have googled alcohol OCF or in search like you mention.


10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
10/13 TBO/Angiograph
10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI
12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site
06/17 Heart Attack Stent
02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs






donfoo #179925 05-05-2014 07:44 PM
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[quote=donfoo]

There seems to be little clinical trials or other studies making any connection yet we read everyday that nearly every other thing we eat or breath will kill us, so I side with do the moderation thing and go on living. [/quote]

Well said! It sometimes amazes me that any of us are still living with all of the reports that are out there about what is bad for us. It depends on how the study is done, who is in the sample group and how the data is cut. That's not to say that none of them have validity but we can't be worried about everything. Moderation is right.


3/2014: 25, no risk factors (nonsmoker, rare drinker, HPV negative) SCC right lateral tongue, T1N0M0 - well-differentiated; surgery - removal of tumor, salivary gland + neck dissection
11/2017 - ovarian torsion
12/2018 - basal cell skin cancer



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I loved my wine but at a year out I just can't tolerate it. Hard spirits are out too and not recommended anyway. However, I do enjoy my beer. 2-3 is all I can handle (I've become such a light weight!) but a couple of good beers on a Friday or over the weekend is a pleasure I savor again. It wasn't until late last year that I was able to even drink one. I started buying 'sample six packs', a mix of different beers to try. I found quite a few that I truly enjoyed.

PS... highly recommended.... . a chocolate/peanut butter porter that's like drinking a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup... Paired with a piece of pumpkin or pecan pie and it's a no brainer! Mmmm smile

Positive thoughts and prayers

"T"


57
Cardiac bypass 11/07
Cardiac stents 10/2012
Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+
Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12
Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13
Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13
3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo
Finished Tx 4/24/13
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