| Joined: May 2013 Posts: 42 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: May 2013 Posts: 42 | Husband was dx tonsil ca and we have just completed Rt and chemo. Guess I am somewhat surprised they did not want to remove the tonsils. When I asked about this they said there was no reason because they were treated with the RT. makes sense to me, but also having them removed sounds reasonable too. They added because HPV + not necessary. Thoughts?
Colleen Wife/advocate for husband. 52 yo nonsmoker ISSC tonsil stage IVa. HPV + Enlarged node & tonsil, CT 2/13 Bx lt tonsil 3/8, PET 3/16 Tx started 4/9/2013 Cisplatin x3 and IMRT x 7 wk Tx end 5/29 GT 5/24-7/17 Officially in Recovery Phase! : ) CT scan 8/13-NED ! CT scan 7/14-NED 5/2018- 5 year anniversary -NED
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 | That's mainly the treatment plan now for HPV positive oropharyngeal cancer, Chemoradiation, and surgery as a last resort, being HPV is highly responsive to radiation, and even better with Chemoradiation. Some do a tonsillectomy before doing chemoradiation. Also, after having radiation, surgery is more difficult, have complications, and on adults there is risk of bleeding. If anything comes up suspicious on the post treatment PET/CT, usually done 3-6 months post treatment, they may remove. If they think it is still activity now, they can do an earlier scan, biopsy, and proceed from there. Doing surgery now just may be unnecessary, and would rather wait when it is. Yours is not unusual, and is typically done. I hope this helps, and good luck on the scans.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 78 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 78 | Agreed with Paul. One thing my multiple oncologist consults agreed on was to try to limit the treatment to 2 out of 3 modalities (neck dissection/surgery, radiation, chemo). There are nccn treatment guidelines for head amd neck cancers which show the standard treatment protocols based on clinical staging. I'd post the link but copy paste on my phone doesnt work on this forum for me.
My docs decided against recommending a neck dissection/surgery because they thought it most likely that there would not be sufficient margins on the primary and I would still need chemo and radiation even with surgery.
Andrew age 25
early 10/12 - enlarged lymph node area 01/13 SCC of L tonsil, L BOT, 2 L lymph nodes stage IVa, T2N2bM0, HPV+
2/13 2 doses cisplatin big bag, 2 doses weekly cisplatin + 35x IMRT 4/13 TX finished 7/13 PET/CT - NED!
| | | | Joined: May 2013 Posts: 42 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: May 2013 Posts: 42 | Thanks for input. We have a PET scan at the 2 mo mark which first surprised not a PET ...seems like the darn radiation would cure anything with the shape it left his throat in.... And we will be praying like crazy that is the case! Always reassuring to get input and hear from others!
Colleen Wife/advocate for husband. 52 yo nonsmoker ISSC tonsil stage IVa. HPV + Enlarged node & tonsil, CT 2/13 Bx lt tonsil 3/8, PET 3/16 Tx started 4/9/2013 Cisplatin x3 and IMRT x 7 wk Tx end 5/29 GT 5/24-7/17 Officially in Recovery Phase! : ) CT scan 8/13-NED ! CT scan 7/14-NED 5/2018- 5 year anniversary -NED
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 | Good luck, most post treatment scans come back clear, other than inflammation, fibrosis. HPV positive has a much lower recurrence rate too, compared to HPV negative.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 15 Member | Member Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 15 | Hi Colleen, New one here and already giving my opinion! Husband also diagnosed with tonsil cancer (right tonsil only). All scans showed clean for any spread, however our ENT surgeon believes in removing the tonsils and a neck dissection before treatment for best survival rate. Only his opinion. I know at MD Anderson in TX they do NOT do the surgery, as we have a friend who chose that path. He moved down there for 7 weeks of treatments, no surgery, and is doing just fine. In our case, the surgery is already behind us, so it is a mote issue. The good news is our tumor team feels very confident with the treatment proposed and gave us a 90% chance of no reoccurance. When we pass the 5 year mark I will allow myself to believe it! We will have 6 weeks of radiation along with a once weekly dose of Erbitux. We are getting a second opinion at The Siteman Cancer Center this week, but expect the same treatment from them. Our ENT was with Siteman for 12 years, so I am guessing they follow the same standard. Our journey began May 8 and we have been on a rollarcoaster all of this time. This forum has been a lifesaver for me to turn to with questions and concerns. Also, a great deal of support. Looks like we are going through this one together at about the same time. Good luck to both of us and we shall celebrate when it is all over! My best to you! Nancy
Wife, caregiver Diagnosed 5-7-13 SCC right tonsil HPV+ No node or tissue involvement Surgery 5-20-13 removed both tonsils, neck dissection Pathology Clear of cancer, no other involvement tumor right at 4cm, so was staged T3N0M0 Treatments suggested both radiation and chemo Have not begun that journey
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 595 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 595 | My Team removed only my left Tonsil before Tx, they believe that this was/is the best course of action, but as long as the end result is all clear, then each battle plan is good!! Semper-Fi Bob
Bob age 57, non smoker,non drinker, ended treatment on 11 Nov 2007 and started back to work on 29 Nov 2007. Veterans Day 2012 the Battle was lowered, folded, Taps was played and the Flag buried as I am know a 5 year survivor. Semper-FI !!!
| | | | Joined: May 2013 Posts: 42 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: May 2013 Posts: 42 | Good luck to you both Nancy, it is a roller coaster for sure! The recovery phase just as much a coaster, and we are still on. A day at a time.This site has been wonderful for answers , suggestions, and support . Stay connected !
Colleen Wife/advocate for husband. 52 yo nonsmoker ISSC tonsil stage IVa. HPV + Enlarged node & tonsil, CT 2/13 Bx lt tonsil 3/8, PET 3/16 Tx started 4/9/2013 Cisplatin x3 and IMRT x 7 wk Tx end 5/29 GT 5/24-7/17 Officially in Recovery Phase! : ) CT scan 8/13-NED ! CT scan 7/14-NED 5/2018- 5 year anniversary -NED
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