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#165582 05-27-2013 02:08 AM
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Hello amazing-support-forum people!
I am "the wife". Husband dx with BOT HPV+ SCC in March. Started chemo cycles in April and just finished the last round of three. Radiation w/ chemo on deck for next week, five days a week for seven weeks along with more chemo once per week.

You guys? I haven't heard anyone talking about "fluoride trays"! He had a dentist give him the "all clear" for treatment, but after reading (and reading and reading) I think he should be preparing his mouth for the next phase by using Fluoride. I will call them on Tuesday.

Thank you, everyone! This forum is amazing. We are hanging in there, but frankly, it's really rough on our whole family.
Onward!


Onward!
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Lucy, welcome to OCF. Glad you found the forum to help get you thru the upcoming treatments.

If use the search function over towards the top right you will find many posts about flouride trays. This is a topic that is brought up often as it is one of the basics that need to be taken care of when beginning treatments. The search function can be used for just about any topic you have a question about. Also try just going in thru the left side and seeing what topics are under each tab that you are interested in. You can read non stop for weeks there is so much info on the forum, dont forget the main OCF pages as well.

Best wishes!



Christine
SCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44
2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07
-65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr
Clear PET 1/08
4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I
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2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit
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LucyD #165587 05-27-2013 07:17 AM
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Yes, look into the fluoride trays, prescription fluoride, mouth guards to prevent radiation scatter, rinses, and oral care. In retrospect, I may have made a mistake not getting fluoride trays, but my mouth was already compromised just from Chemo, which did as much damage to my mouth from the severe mucocitis, cadiasiss, other infections, and lack oral care when hospitlized. Anyway, I need most of my teeth extracted now, and will have to do 30 HBO dives, 20 before, 10 after, to prevent PRON, post radiation osteonecrosis, which I did before. I did get an "all clear" after having several fillings, root canal, and one extraction before starting radiation, which was a year after my chemo, but the radiation still causes damage to the saliva, weakens teeth, resulting in demineralization of the teeth or radiation caries. I didn't see an oncology dentist then, long story, but I do now, and recommend you see one, preferably associated with your CCC. Good luck.

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LucyD #165599 05-27-2013 01:28 PM
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Hi Lucy,

The subject of dental treatment and the side effects was one that was not covered thoroughly prior to my treatment. I had one tooth extracted and a deep cleaning as well as a fluoride treatment prior to treatment. You are NOT to get deep cleanings after treatment! My dentist had to give me a letter giving me the all clear to give to my team.

It was recommended that I use a fluoride rinse as opposed to trays. I use Listerine rinse for kids (it doesn't burn) 1-2 times a day after brushing.

Unfortunately, it's a crap shoot as some with excellent teeth and dental health suffer issues years after treatment. I finished treatment a month ago and have had sensitivity in my teeth from about the 4th week of treatment on.

If you're at a CCC, they should have a dentist on staff that specializes in H&N cancers that can advise you as to the best way to maintain dental health during and after treatment.

"T"


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Cardiac bypass 11/07
Cardiac stents 10/2012
Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+
Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12
Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13
Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13
3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo
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Hi.. yes your hubby should have flouride trays made for him by a dental oncologist, and he should use them religiously for the rest of his life. Tooth issues with people who've had radiation can lead to serious jaw issues. If he ever has to have a tooth pulled it requires Hyperberic treatments etc... and it can cause ORN (osteoradionecrosis) if the jaw, which could lead to a jaw replacement. So if he is keeping his teeth he really needs to be diligent about oral care forever. I'm not exaggerating here. There are many people who five years out have survived the cancer but have terrible fallout from the radiation to their jaw.

best of luck.


Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
LucyD #165691 05-29-2013 06:00 AM
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Definitely get the fluoride trays. I used from 1 month PRE rad until appx 5 years post rads and I have not had one as in any teeth problems since rads began. One caution, if you have cats DO NOT leave those trays out. They will find them and they will hide them. I guarantee it.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.

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