| Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | OP "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 | Dear friends,
I am now 4.5 months since my last radiation/chemo treatment to the throat, bilateral neck, and oral cavity (max dosage, I think). I don't know if I am imagining things or not, but I feel like I have more dry mouth than I did in the beginning. Has this happened to anyone else?
Also, over the last couple of days, I have had some soreness along my left lateral tongue (where it was resected with my first cancer). Upon inspection, it looks red (to Dan), but he said it was more vascular in nature. I'm thinking that my tongue may be sticking to my molars when my mouth gets dry during sleep. At this point, I am seeing my med/onc team one month and my SO every other other month (so I am being followed monthly). I am being scoped at every visit along with manual palpation. I have an appointment with my med/onc team on the 26th. It's just hard not to worry at this point since I am still recovering both physically and emotionally from this second primary cancer in my tonsil.
I always have water with me, even at night, but I don't often wake up to drink. I start drinking water as soon as I get up. Another factor is that I am nearly done tapering my methadone in the next few days (hopefully).
Any thoughts, input, or advice would be much appreciated!
Love, Kerri
37 y/o fem at Dx (23 wks preg @ dx on 3/16/11) SCC L oral tongue (no risk factors) L partial gloss/MND 3/28/11 @ 25 wks preg T1-2N0M0; no rads/chemo Tonsillectomy on 8/6/12 +SCC L tonsil T2-3N1M0 (HPV-) Treated with 35 rads/7 carbo & taxol (Rx ended 10/31/12), but many hospitalizations d/t complications from rx. Various scans since rx ended are NED! Part of genetic study for rare cancers @ MGH. 44 years old now...I wasn't sure I would make it! Hoping for 40 more!
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Kerri, unfortunately this is pretty normal. Dry mouth can be very annoying! It can also cause other complications. Some people end up carrying a water bottle everywhere for life.
Have you asked about the salagen or pilocarpine medications to help with saliva? Some members have found success with that. I tried it and all it did was make me sweat (something us girls dont do).
Drinking water is good, also keep rinsing with the baking soda/salt mixture. How about using the dry mouth gel? A friend gave me some tablets that coat the mouth, I think they stick on the roof of your mouth and slowly dissolve. I only used them a couple times and that was a while ago so sorry I cant quite remember.
ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | OP "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 | Thank you, Christine. I plan on buying the Biotene gel. I use the mouth wash, but only before bed. Otherwise, I am an official water bottle-carrying patient. I will ask about those meds at my next visit. Frankly, I am so sick of taking meds that every time I can stop one, it makes me feel better. I guess you have to pick your battles! Things could be much worse, of course. I just hope this soreness on my lateral tongue is nothing.
Thank you as always! Love, Kerri
37 y/o fem at Dx (23 wks preg @ dx on 3/16/11) SCC L oral tongue (no risk factors) L partial gloss/MND 3/28/11 @ 25 wks preg T1-2N0M0; no rads/chemo Tonsillectomy on 8/6/12 +SCC L tonsil T2-3N1M0 (HPV-) Treated with 35 rads/7 carbo & taxol (Rx ended 10/31/12), but many hospitalizations d/t complications from rx. Various scans since rx ended are NED! Part of genetic study for rare cancers @ MGH. 44 years old now...I wasn't sure I would make it! Hoping for 40 more!
| | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Assistant Admin Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,275 Likes: 7 | I attended a post treatment workshop for patients and caregivers this week at our hospital. For combatting dry mouth, they are recommending coating the mouth (gums and tongue) with 1/2 teaspoon of vegetable oil or mild olive oil at bedtime. My husband has tried it for a few nights now and finds it helps. Hope this helps, it is cheaper than biotene.
Gloria She stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way, she adjusted her sails... Elizabeth Edwards
Wife to John,dx 10/2012, BOT, HPV+, T3N2MO, RAD 70 gy,Cisplatinx2 , PEG in Dec 6, 2012, dx dvt in both legs after second chemo session, Apr 03/13 NED, July 2013 met to lungs, Phase 1 immunotherapy trial Jan 18/14 to July/14. Taxol/carboplatin July/14. Esophagus re-opened Oct 14. PEG out April 8, 2015. Phase 2 trial of Selinexor April to July 2015. At peace Jan 15, 2016. | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | OP "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 | That sounds like a good idea, Gloria! Thanks for the home-made advice .
37 y/o fem at Dx (23 wks preg @ dx on 3/16/11) SCC L oral tongue (no risk factors) L partial gloss/MND 3/28/11 @ 25 wks preg T1-2N0M0; no rads/chemo Tonsillectomy on 8/6/12 +SCC L tonsil T2-3N1M0 (HPV-) Treated with 35 rads/7 carbo & taxol (Rx ended 10/31/12), but many hospitalizations d/t complications from rx. Various scans since rx ended are NED! Part of genetic study for rare cancers @ MGH. 44 years old now...I wasn't sure I would make it! Hoping for 40 more!
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | Kerrie. It has been over 5 yrs for me and the dry mouth is worse now than before. I have every concoction they make and nothing seems to keep my mout wet for long. Maybe 10 minutes is it . Someone even suggested to try lemon drops. LOL Talk about burning. One day maybe they will make something that works. Good luck.
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| | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | OP "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 | Thanks, Jim.
It's not horrible, but I'm wondering if it's the contributing factor in my tongue being sore (mostly when I wake up in the morning). I'll try the Biotene gel and hopefully, I'll get somewhere.
37 y/o fem at Dx (23 wks preg @ dx on 3/16/11) SCC L oral tongue (no risk factors) L partial gloss/MND 3/28/11 @ 25 wks preg T1-2N0M0; no rads/chemo Tonsillectomy on 8/6/12 +SCC L tonsil T2-3N1M0 (HPV-) Treated with 35 rads/7 carbo & taxol (Rx ended 10/31/12), but many hospitalizations d/t complications from rx. Various scans since rx ended are NED! Part of genetic study for rare cancers @ MGH. 44 years old now...I wasn't sure I would make it! Hoping for 40 more!
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 | Narcotics, methadone, can cause dry mouth, tongue swelling, amongst other side effects, so maybe that will improve when it's finished.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | OP "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 596 | Thanks, Paul. I am taking a minute dose of methadone now and should be done in 2 days (hopefully), but I have experienced other side effects from it for sure. It's a double-edged sword, my friend. Kerri
37 y/o fem at Dx (23 wks preg @ dx on 3/16/11) SCC L oral tongue (no risk factors) L partial gloss/MND 3/28/11 @ 25 wks preg T1-2N0M0; no rads/chemo Tonsillectomy on 8/6/12 +SCC L tonsil T2-3N1M0 (HPV-) Treated with 35 rads/7 carbo & taxol (Rx ended 10/31/12), but many hospitalizations d/t complications from rx. Various scans since rx ended are NED! Part of genetic study for rare cancers @ MGH. 44 years old now...I wasn't sure I would make it! Hoping for 40 more!
| | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 71 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 71 | I was just going to write about the mouth soreness. I have been about 5 to 6 months since treatment and my tongue has the same thing. I thought it might be from the biotene gum (I like it) or from trying too spice food or from my dental trays. I guess it is not too uncommon. Thanks for the post. I did not think about it coming from the DRYness of the tooth the the tongue sticking to it. I will ask my ENT Friday (03/22) about it, I want him to see it....
Next (2nd) CT scan 04/03/13, since the treatments it will be almost at 6 months.
Kerri, I hope your sores heal, ... I did try neosporin but it doesnt stay on there long enough....
large lymph node Left Neck around May 22 2012 ENT June 6, did needle Biopsy - Negative ENT CT scan July 9 - Negative Remove lymph node July 26, DX - SSC - T1N2aM0 PET Aug 7, BOT Aug 14, endoscopy, 1cm - clear margin HPV+ TX 33 IMRT - 6 Chemo - Taxol/Carboplatin TX chemo 09/04/12 RAD 09/05/12 | | |
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