| Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 17 Member | OP Member Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 17 | I had a PET Scan done Friday and got the result today. My last radiation Tx was 1/14 so the scan was only 6.5 weeks after my last rad treatment.
There are some areas around the tumor and node sites that show activity. My RO does not think we have anything to worry about and we will monitor it very closely.
Anyone else have similar results?
Thanks,
Ray
Ray
SCC Right Pharangeal wall Stage IV HPV+ T1-2N2bMO Dx 10/12/2012 Father for the second time to 2nd beautiful boy 11/2/12 Port Implanted 11/20/12 - no feeding tube Tx - 11/26/12 35 IMRT Rads 5X/week Weekly Cisplatin Last treatment 1/15/13 "Grind it out, I will be cured as I have too much to live for"
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 | Yes. All the time. Pet scans are very sensitive, and pick up all sorts of hypermetabolic activity, some physiologic, inflammation, from movement such as swallowing. The PET scan does seem early, but shown that it's 90 percent accurate by 8 weeks. Some doctors do scans 6-8 weeks for a number of reasons. Do you know the SUV for the highlighted areas.
If the doctor says to monitor, it sounds good.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,260 Likes: 3 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,260 Likes: 3 | I've heard of numerous false positives with PETs - will they do another in 6 weeks?
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
| | | | Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 145 "OCF Down Under" Senior Member (100+ posts) | "OCF Down Under" Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 145 | Why would they do a PET/CT so close out from treatment in the first instance?
The earliest most doc's recommend a PET/CT is 3 months from last treatment date and even then, some are reluctant because of the high false positive rates.
I wouldn't read into the scan results too much and make sure your ENT doc has a good look at it directly!
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| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 | Some doctors believe it is beneficial to do a PET early, 6-8 weeks, instead of later, in case surgery is needed, and or additional chemo for unresponsive tumors, and to keep in line with a "total treatment package" time frame of 12 weeks or less, which is more optimal, than doing it later. They say by 8 weeks, a PET is 90 percent accurate. Less than 6 weeks is unacceptable. Three months is more optional, and at 4 months is even better, forgot the numbers.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 17 Member | OP Member Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 17 | I saw my MO this morning and the value he gave me was a 5. Does this make sense for the SUV? He is going to connect with my RO as he is a bit more concerned than my RO was.
The MO spoke about induction chemo with a 3 drug mix as a possible next step. I am very uneasy about all of this as I have just been through hell and left my wife to care for our newborn and a 2 year old while I recovered. The MO indicated induction chemo was pretty debilitating.
ENT appt is Wednesday, so he will give his 2cents then.
Any thoughts or opinions would be appreciated.
Ray
Last edited by Bray&Graysdad; 03-11-2013 06:10 AM.
Ray
SCC Right Pharangeal wall Stage IV HPV+ T1-2N2bMO Dx 10/12/2012 Father for the second time to 2nd beautiful boy 11/2/12 Port Implanted 11/20/12 - no feeding tube Tx - 11/26/12 35 IMRT Rads 5X/week Weekly Cisplatin Last treatment 1/15/13 "Grind it out, I will be cured as I have too much to live for"
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 | I would think "5" is referring to the SUV uptake. Anything above 2.5 is suspicious for cancer, but other things can cause this uptake too, like inflammation, necrotic tissue. I heard of Induction Chemo, IC, being given during or after treatment for unresponsive tumors, and is very effective. IC, is usually TPF, Taxotere, Cisplatin and 5-FU, or slight variations, with 3 five day cycles, three weeks apart. 5-FU is administered by continuous infusion for 4 days. The others are high dose infusions given on the first day, 2nd day. I had Induction chemo in 2009, only one week in the hospital, and It's effects were pretty harsh after discharge, actually beyond description, but others are not effected as much. I think I had the worst experience that I've heard of, but it did kill all my cancer, almost me too. I don't know what they plan after that, surgery? Maybe ask that, and about further diagnostic testing or biopsy to see if it is cancer they are dealing with. I think an MRI can show the difference between necrotic tissue or not.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,912 Likes: 52 OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,912 Likes: 52 | I wouldn't get really worried if the location for the hot spot was near the primary location of the cancer. If it is somewhere else it needs to be identified as to what it is. Too many times these early PET's are just finding residual inflammation from the treatments and healing. I'm more than a decade out and I get hot PET's all the time, (every 3 years) around my body, none of them related to cancer� I can't count the number of people on this board that got high SUV with an early PET. The false positive rate with them is ridiculous. While I get some doctors desire to do them, many have suggested this is just a money maker for the institution.
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