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Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 38 | All,
I'm SO curious about what y'all mean by mucous since my mother has a lot of "secretions" which prompts her LTAC here at Emory to consider her a permanent tracheostomy patient. She saw her surgeon yesterday who disagreed and said her airway is clear and that a trach tube just exacerbates secretions. Being a "trach" patient really really limits our nursing home/rehab options. PLease please advise if y'all have experience with trachs. Mom is doing really well with the exception of this trach issue.
Thanks! Trish, caregiver to 82 yo Mom
Mom age 84 dx stage IV papillary cancer mandible 10/10; non-smoker, drinker, HPV-. Surgery 2/16/2011; mandibulectomy. 0 pos lymph nodes, has been in long-term hospital since March 2011. Returned home 8/11, permanent PEG tube.
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Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,260 Likes: 3 | Well I had crazy secretions when I had a trache in- mind you I was post operative... I still have crazy secretions because I am still healing from my radiation treatments. I imagine the trache is irritatiing her throat so it's possible making the situation worse.I would listen to the surgeon.good luck.
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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Mom age 84 dx stage IV papillary cancer mandible 10/10; non-smoker, drinker, HPV-. Surgery 2/16/2011; mandibulectomy. 0 pos lymph nodes, has been in long-term hospital since March 2011. Returned home 8/11, permanent PEG tube.
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Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | Heck, I have had secretions for a long time now and they don't seem to be lessening. In fact right now I am terying my best to cough this stuff up. Too thick to cough up and too thick to swallow. Some of us just have t put up with it longer.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
--- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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Donna,69, SCC L Tongue T2N1MO Stg IV 4/04 w/partial gloss;32 radtx; T2N2M0 Stg IV; R tongue-2nd partial gloss w/graft 10/07; 30 radtx/2 cispl 2/08. 3rd Oral Cancer surgery 1/22 - Stage 1. 2022 surgery eliminated swallowing and bottom left jaw. Now a “Tubie for Life”.no food envy - Thank God! Surviving isn't easy!!!! .Proudly Canadian - YES, UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IS WONDERFUL! (Not perfect but definitely WONDERFUL)
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Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
--- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,357 Likes: 5 | I wrote Water Pik once and explained to them that I was advocating their product at every turn so I suggested to they do something for OCF - haven't heard if they ever did - but it truly is a Godsend to those of us with the mucous problems.
Hugs
Donna
Donna,69, SCC L Tongue T2N1MO Stg IV 4/04 w/partial gloss;32 radtx; T2N2M0 Stg IV; R tongue-2nd partial gloss w/graft 10/07; 30 radtx/2 cispl 2/08. 3rd Oral Cancer surgery 1/22 - Stage 1. 2022 surgery eliminated swallowing and bottom left jaw. Now a “Tubie for Life”.no food envy - Thank God! Surviving isn't easy!!!! .Proudly Canadian - YES, UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IS WONDERFUL! (Not perfect but definitely WONDERFUL)
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Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 38 | PLease explain how the water pik works--is it ORC? Machine? We have a suction machine and a water pik looking thing.
Mom age 84 dx stage IV papillary cancer mandible 10/10; non-smoker, drinker, HPV-. Surgery 2/16/2011; mandibulectomy. 0 pos lymph nodes, has been in long-term hospital since March 2011. Returned home 8/11, permanent PEG tube.
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Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,260 Likes: 3 | Oh hi. I use one!!! It's awesome. It has different heads, and different settings - it shoots water into your mouth - cleans between teeth, and rinses out the mucous - gets small particles. Its like a power washer for your mouth! I put a little mouthwash ( all natural alcohol free) in it. And I feel nice and fresh. Tis a great gadget!
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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Joined: May 2011 Posts: 62 | Hi,
Sorry to butt in...but the Water PIK does sound interesting. It appears to mitigate the mucous by rinsing it out. I was curious if one needs a prescription, or is it just something we purchase at a local pharmacy?
Thanks in advance!
Chetan
Chetan
SCC, lateral tongue, age 53, Tongue resection & neck dissection 5/6/11; T1N2BM0, RTX (35 sessions starting 6/8/11)/chemo (3x starting 6/10/11) Last cisplatin 7/22. RTX complete 7/27. PEG in 6/9/11, out 8/31/11
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