| Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 216 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 216 | After butting heads for a couple weeks DH finally had appointment with surgeon today re: PET. PET was clear and we moved to issues that should have been addressed before but hardheaded DH wouldn't pursue. All teeth were extracted prior to treatment and now he has what appears to be the root of a tooth protruding thru gum (explains a lot about the jaw pain he had for about 6 months or more) and we have appointment with dentist tomorrow if we aren't snowed in. Surgeon thinks if it will just pop out, fine, if not...grind down and wait for it to pop up again. Anybody had this experience? Also, DH has been having difficulty for some time in laughing - chokes, can't get enough air. Breathing test done today...lung capacity is fine and surgeon thinks possibly vocal cords "sticking" due to mucous and dryness not letting air thru. Prescribed an inhaler - Dulera. Ran a search looking for similar problems and didn't really find anything. Anyone else have this kind of problem?
CG to H with SCC BOT T4N2cM0 dx 12/19/08, teeth removed pre-tx; Erbitux & RT-done 3/12/09, PEG 2/9/09-7/14/09; ND 6/16. Pet 6/12-no mets except lymph node in neck removed on 6/16. Chyle leak,2nd surg to repair. Dilate esophagus 4/15/10. Clear PET 12/17/10
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Congrats on the clear PET. Having a shard of leftover tooth sticking out of your gums is very very painful. Its happened to me several times. If any surgeries are being planned for this, make sure you question the doc about needing hyperbaric oxygen therapy. For tooth extractions after radiation you would need the Marx Protacol which is 20 HBO before the surgery and 10 after. This will prevent osteoradionecrosis which would be even more of a problem. Havent heard of the laughing problem on here before. ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 71 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 71 | I am going to tack on here to see if I can get some information...do ALL oral radiation cause the need for HBO or does it vary person to person? Does the number of treatments make a difference?
I had a wisdom tooth removed in June, and had a lump on the side of my jaw all this time - through surgery and radiation. About 2 weeks out of radiation it finally got soft and quit hurting. (I had pointed this out to ALL the Dr.'s each time I visited!) Now that radiation is healing my mouth is "thawing" for the lack of a better term. I can open a little further each day, get back beside the teeth a little further each day, etc.
My ear had been hurting so I went to the Dr. on Monday. She noted I was swollen but felt OK and I go to ENT next week. She checked ear, it was clear. On Wed. I felt a sore back by where the wisdom tooth was removed (at the next tooth) and the next day I could see another spot on the gumline. I went to my dentist and I have an abscessed tooth. :o( I am on antibiotics and he suggested pulling it but said he wanted me to see/talk to my ENT surgeon before doing anything. So, Wed. I guess I go see the dentist at the cancer center.
My question is, does radiation automatically mean EVERYONE needs the HBO or is it a case by case situation? I really don't want to deal with a root canal and crown...I can't chew on the radiation side anyway they suggested so not having the one tooth won't really matter...but the 30 HBO treatments are going to be tricky!
Any ideas?
Michele in IL
Female - 53 no smoke/drink tongue Biopsy 8/2010 Surgery 9/21 for SCC left side tongue stage II. Prtl removal tongue/left side lymph nodes. All Clear Radiation started 11/2, ended 12/17 Lymph node involved left side along with gum involvement 2/9 Fibular flap failed 2/22. passed away 1/12/12
| | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 383 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 383 | Clear PET+Great News! I had a tooth extracted and then had pain (And yes, it seems most times I have a mouth pain it resonates into my left ear). Piece of tooth (Root) protruding into gum. Once it was ground down all was good. That was about a year ago! Also, I had a root canal about a month ago. It was a piece of cake with the exception of keeping my mouth open through it all. They tried wedges but the small one wasn't effective and larger ones wouldn't fit. the root canal itself was simple. All good I've never had HBO and did not have my teeth removed prior to treatment. I have lost a couple of teeth since and partner with my Oncologist and/or Surgeon prior to any dental work. Steve
SCC right side BOT/FOM; DX 1-25-06; Neck dissection/25% of tongue removed 2-17-06. Stage 2 Recurrence 7-06: IMRTX35 & 3X Cisplatin ended 10-18-06. Tumor found 03/18/13; Partial Glossectomy 03/28/13 left lateral tongue. Nov. 2014; headaches,lump on left side of throat. Radical Neck Dissection 12-17-14; Tumor into nerves/jugular; Surgery successful, IMRTX30 & 7X Erbotux. Scan 06-03-15; NED! 06-02-16; Mets to left Humerus bone and lesion on lungs-here We go again! Never, Ever Give Up!
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| | | | Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 | If you have the root canal and crown, you should not need the HBO treatments, however if you have the extraction, you will probably need 30 HBO treatments, 20 before and 10 after. I think I'd go for the crown unless you have other issues HBO would help.
Take care, Eileen
---------------------- Aug 1997 unknown primary, Stage III mets to 1 lymph node in neck; rt ND, 36 XRT rad Aug 2001 tiny tumor on larynx, Stage I total laryngectomy; left ND June 5, 2010 dx early stage breast cancer June 9, 2011 SCC 1.5 cm hypo pharynx, 70% P-16 positive, no mets, Stage I
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | After having radiation anyone who needs a tooth pulled should be doing the marx protocol. This is 20 hyperbaric oxygen dives prior to and 10 after the extraction. For simple dental work, fillings or root canals HBO is not necessary. It takes 2+ hours daily to do one HBO treatment. If you choose to not do HBO you can face a far worse treatment by getting osteoradionecrosis. This is very painful and you will need HBO to cure it. So do yourself a favor and if you need a tooth pulled make sure your ENT or oral surgeon sends you for HBO. If they say you dont need it, then they may not be familiar enough with oral cancer patients. ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | |
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