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#10841 05-31-2007 07:06 PM
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Ok all ... I am going to go to another ENT for a 2nd opinion. trying to be assertive in my own health care..I can be very assertive in some cases ..more so for others..I love to advocate and fight for others...Not so much for myself. I think my current surgeon ( whom a big part of me LOVES , but not so sure with the comfort of his decisons latley ) thinks I AM CRAAAAZZZZYYY !! I have a lump in my Jaw about the size of ..hmmmmm.. A little bigger then one of those large marbles....maybe like a phoose ball or ping pong ball. VISIBLE . and I had a CT scan on the 26th ( he still hasnt called me ....that story in another post under currently in treatment scan results) Well I know that it is my Submandibular Gland and that is is about 9mm in size according to the CT. I am very full aware that it may NOT be cancer and just an infection ..OK well o somthing about it . I am also aware that it could be cancer and we dont know until a biopsy ...but either way ....it isnt going to just go away .it has been about 7 weeks or so and only gotten bigger. I called the new DR today and explained things and they said "he didnt biopsy it ?" I said no...I havent talked to him but he told my GP ( whose secratary called me to tell me ) that he had no concerns of a reacurrence...so the new DR office said " he can tell that from a ct ? i said not to my knowledge she said "EXACTLY !! YOU need a biopsy " so ...I dunno still . I see new dr on JUne 8th of course today I have to go sign a release for info. and STUPID ME is AFRAID of hurting my current ENT feelings and making him feel like he dosent do his job ..STUPID RIGHT !!! I mean he has done good so far I think.. I dunno ..I was DIAG at the end of JAN and SUrg in feb.. MY undersatndindg is for treatment plan ..Visits once a month for a year...IN may he said Ok see you in JULY !~ that right there made me go HUH ? that is where the comfort level dropped. that and all he seems to wanna look at know when I go in are the tonsils I DONT HAVE ...he removed them and the scar from the ND. DO you know he has NEVER scoped me ..not once. The phrases ..I dont think ..I dont feel . I am not worried..MEAN NOTHING TO ME ..coming from a medical profesional. I was told that by 4 different Medical people ( dental & DR) before my diag..DOnt worry ..are you kiding there is no way it is cancer...why would you think that...not possible ..blah blah blah ..2 days after the 1st removal ( not complete) or the lesion the phone is ringing and I have cancer !! So I Dont care what you think.....you are only human ..I want test and then I want those results. I know it isnt cancer until the pathology says so . I can be so assertive on here and when i am whinning to my husband and friends about it ..not good with the dr ..maybe because I have this Fear they are SMARTER then me and I dont know what I am talking about ..But I have given you what I think are a few good reasons for my doubt now.I research so much ..I like it in mot cases, I mean of course I dont like my situation , but I enjoy researching things and I comprehend fairly well and a few of my other Drs are impressed by my knowledege and understanding of it. But My surgeon seems ( he placates me ya know ..almost kinda yes's me , now I feel he is avoiding me ) like he thinks I am crazy and paraniod ..BUT YOU CAN SEE THIS THING ( LUMP < WELL DEFINED) on my face and I do ask others so I know i am not being paranoid or a hypochondriac cus I do fear that I am .I dunno...from my research,,,the smaller of the salivary glands are more likley to be malignant if there are tumors in them then the larger ( which I dont have anymore) I am to the point that swallowing can be difficult at times...I am having increasing numbmess in the face and increase fatigue. I know as well that tumors in the glands dont always show on CT because the glands can hide them , why wasnt this one taken in my ND he took 32 other ones Is it possible those were clear and this one wasnt. Again I am aware that cancer isnt the only cause, yet there are infections in these glands that need to be dealt with . am I handeling this all wrong ? Any suggestions ...or meications to put me out of my neurotic mind LOL.......... Thanks again for letting me ramble..I think I drive my hubby crazy , I have to say I am suprised how good he has been latley ..he was good during surgery , then he was on his GET OVER IT KICK, but now he see this and I think he is scared cus he is always saying call this dr call that dr call someone ..you gotta do somthing. I think he realizes now how REAL this is for me and it is never truley going to be OVER this is life ..at least a part of it for me . and because it is now Visible and he can see somthing it is REAL to him and he wants to know what it is and have it taken care of as well ..I mean come on ..Do you think he wants to take care of 5 kids alone LOL ..I know it isnt coming to that ,,not yet anyhow ..to much for me to do still > HEY I still have to go to a place to see that BLUE GREEN TROPICAL OCEAN !! ( i grew up near ME and that water isnt the color of the tropics) I am going NO WHERE TILL I DO THAT !!! HAHAHA and MANY MANY OTHER THINGS !!! ANd I supose he loves me too ..hahaha.. But He isnt a talker or doesnt say what he is feeling , but I can tell by his actions he is nervous ... Agian thanks for listening and Any suggestions on how to handle this are so WELCOME AND NEEDED..things like this are when you wanna throw your hands up..Drs are supose to know BEST right .


Sharlee
35 year old Female Non smoker, very occasional alcohol ..Scc T1N0M0,partial glossectomy and left neck disection ,2/9/07 No rad deemed ness. 4/16 tonsillectomy ..Trimengenial Neuralga due to surgery
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Robin thought that about his dentist Sharlee and look how that turned out.so you go for it girl and get all theopinions you need till you are 100% satisfied your self,and can comfortably live with what they say.


Liz in the UK

Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007
Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.

Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
#10843 06-02-2007 04:44 AM
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Sharlee, You are doing nothing wrong by getting a second opinion though I understand worrying that you will offend your doc because I worried about that too both times when I went to get one.

I do have one request of you and that is that you make some paragraphs in your posts, broken up by a blank line, when they are as long as that last one so they are a little easier to read. I had a very time reading all of that without any line breaks. But don't worry about "rambling", I can understand your worry and this is where you *should* be coming with it.

I'm glad you're going for the second opinion and again, don't worry about how your doctor will react. Ultimately this is about you taking care of yourself and any good doctor will understand that.

Nelie


SCC(T2N0M0) part.glossectomy & neck dissect 2/9/05 & 2/25/05.33 IMRT(66 Gy),2 Cisplatin ended 06/03/05.Stage I breast cancer treated 2/05-11/05.Surgery to remove esophageal stricture 07/06, still having dilatations to keep esophagus open.Dysphagia. "When you're going through hell, keep going"
#10844 06-02-2007 02:42 PM
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I totally agree....... Please get a 2nd opinion. My hubby had CT, FNA, etc etc, Only the biopsy told us the truth. Either way my thoughts and prayers are with you.
Good luck


C/G to Husband Richard SCC Op 4/1/2005 T2N0M0,Neck disection, 35% of tongue removed.
Reoccurance 3/2007,Lymph Node same side Positive SCC, Swelled to 2.5 inches. IMRT X35 Cis X3 Completed 33 IMRT Cis x2 carbo X1 MET to lungs post treatment 10/04/2007
Passed peacefully 31st July 2008.
#10845 06-05-2007 02:14 AM
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How are you doing Sharlee? Although I've not been diagnosed with anything yet, I'm going through the same crap. I had what was an 8mm node on one side according to H&N surgeon's palpatation of it back at the end of April. Since then I've had a CT scan at my local diagnostic center, the radiologist there just noted a enlarged node (on the large end of normal) -this is what my GP, who ordered the scan told me. So I then had the scans forwarded to the H&N surgeon who saw me back in April. Now he seems to be slightly more concerned about the scans, he said that he sees a couple of enlarged glands on the left. So he is passing the scans on to the radiologist at the CCC. That's where I'm at right now.


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#10846 06-05-2007 09:05 AM
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Sharlee - two things: First of all, where your health is concerned, don't ever worry about a doctor's "hurt feelings" . A second opinion is something any good doctor should welcome, especially where there is even the slightest doubt in your mind about any decision you are having to make. If you were getting your car repaired, wouldn't you want a couple of estimates about what needs to be done? So get that 2nd opinion . . .

Secondly - I know about husbands who don't seem able to express their feelings or talk about them. I had one of those, and after several years of marriage I asked him one day why he never said "I love you". His reply was, "I told you the day we got married - don't you remember??"


Anne-Marie
CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)



#10847 06-05-2007 10:53 AM
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nelie,
If we need to 'ramble', that's what we need to do and surely that's the point of a support forum???

I know where you're coming from, but even those of us who are experts on the finer points of English grammar and syntax etc. need to rant occasionally!!
And not grammatically correctly!!
(Oops, 'scuse my overuse of exclamation marks and abbreviations!!)
It's gonna take me all my time tomorrow to ask the questions I need to tomorrow and 'scribble down' the answers before next week's surgery!
Sharlee, take care and know we're thinking of you
Brenda


Brenda in UK--Diagnosis 30/5/07--undifferentiated carcinoma in right jawbone and muscles. Stage 4
6/7/07--new diagnosis primary is in lung. Finished 4cycles of palliative carboplatin/gemcitabine
therapy September 07
Now dying to live!
#10848 06-05-2007 04:31 PM
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Brenda, Nellie was AGREEING that this was the place to bring our "ramblings". Not sure if you read her posting correctly.


SCC Left Mandible. Jaw replaced with bone from leg. Neck disection, 37 radiation treatments. Recurrence 8-28-07, stage 2, tongue. One third of tongue removed 10-4-07. 5-23-08 chemo started for tumor behind swallowing passage, Our good friend and much loved OCF member Minnie has been lost to the disease (RIP 10-29-08). We will all miss her greatly.
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Thanks everyone for your support !! I understand what nellie was saying ..however I type like I talk ....NON STOP with out a Breath LOL..SO as you can see it would be horrible If I couldnt speak and trust me THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN !! hahah they wouldnt be able to find a way to keep me quite !!

Anne marie ..Thanks so much to you always..that is such a hard part of it..He doesnt know how to show it and I think that his working 2 jobs is his way of dealing
1 he is making money for his family which is what he thinks is important
2 he dosent have to deal with it if he isnt here.
this is how he knows to do it and If I sit down and think about it I can realize that ...Not always easy though ..because I need him more then that..specailly now.

An Update I go to the new surgeon on Fri at 315 for the 2nd opinion. saw My GP yesterday and he feels as if it has grown in the past few weeks,it was just along my jaw line ..now going more down into the throat, some discomfort and all and I think it is causing limited range of motion in turning my head. but who knows if I am just being paranoid. so that is what is going on.

I do have a question though , If this is cancer , would it be considered a recurrance or not? I had the surgery in Feb , would it just be that they didnt get it ALL? I am somewhat confused on that issue .


Sharlee
35 year old Female Non smoker, very occasional alcohol ..Scc T1N0M0,partial glossectomy and left neck disection ,2/9/07 No rad deemed ness. 4/16 tonsillectomy ..Trimengenial Neuralga due to surgery
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Thanks everyone for your support !! I understand what nellie was saying ..however I type like I talk ....NON STOP with out a Breath LOL..SO as you can see it would be horrible If I couldnt speak and trust me THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN !! hahah they wouldnt be able to find a way to keep me quite !!

Anne marie ..Thanks so much to you always..that is such a hard part of it..He doesnt know how to show it and I think that his working 2 jobs is his way of dealing
1 he is making money for his family which is what he thinks is important
2 he dosent have to deal with it if he isnt here.
this is how he knows to do it and If I sit down and think about it I can realize that ...Not always easy though ..because I need him more then that..specailly now.

An Update I go to the new surgeon on Fri at 315 for the 2nd opinion. saw My GP yesterday and he feels as if it has grown in the past few weeks,it was just along my jaw line ..now going more down into the throat, some discomfort and all and I think it is causing limited range of motion in turning my head. but who knows if I am just being paranoid. so that is what is going on.

I do have a question though , If this is cancer , would it be considered a recurrance or not? I had the surgery in Feb , would it just be that they didnt get it ALL? I am somewhat confused on that issue .


Sharlee
35 year old Female Non smoker, very occasional alcohol ..Scc T1N0M0,partial glossectomy and left neck disection ,2/9/07 No rad deemed ness. 4/16 tonsillectomy ..Trimengenial Neuralga due to surgery
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