| Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12 Member | OP Member Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12 | I was dx with SCC in 2003 on my son's fourth birthday. I have had surgeries, radiation implants, HBO, more biopsies, radiation burns and now more complications from the radiation treatments. I have seen several doctors and have changed ENT specialists but all to no avail. I am still miserable and in ALOT of pain everyday but no one seems to have any answers or solutions and they only thing the doctors seem to know how to do is reccomend costly procedures and biopsies that do not help. All the biopsies are normal and because I don't have cancer they have NO IDEA what to do to make me better. And as of today I feel like I am going to have to live in pain and be miserable for the rest of my life while the doctors keep guessing. I am very grateful that I don't have cancer but I also want my life back. I have four children and a wonderful husband and I want to be the mom and wife they deserve but I can't because I am miserable and spend too much going to doctors who aren't able to help and won't listen to me. Getting pain medicine is a huge deal with every doctor, I'm not an addict, I am a cancer survivor who is trying my best to deal with extreme pain and still have something that resembles a life. Why is it so hard for them to understand that? Don't I have a right to live without pain or at least be able to manage my pain until they figure out how to fix it? I have a hole in my gums exposing jawbone because part of the bone was dead. Three weeks ago the oral surgeon removed part(2in.) of the dead bone and wants to wait and see if it will heal without any further intervention but nothing is getting any better and he seems to be sticking firmly to the "wait and see" treatment plan. Meanwhile, I have trouble talking and eating and I am losing weight quickly(almost down to 100 lbs.) Why can't I get any answers? Can anybody help me?
SCC dx at age 21 4/03, partial glossectomy and partial neck dissection 4/03, IMRT 6/03, cancer free 9/03 HBOT 7/04-10/04, cysts on thyroid 6/06, biopsy and throat endoscopy 4/09, dead bone removed from jawbone 9/09, fibula free flap and partial mandible removed 12/09 6 yr survivor
| | | | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 794 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 794 | I am sorry to hear that you are still experiencing so much pain. My mom is now two years out and still has pain, and there is a small spot on her jaw bone that has suffered from necrosis. My moms RO has her on neurontin which is a med used typically for seizures. I see that you had hbot, did you find that helped with your pain? My heart aches for you, for all here, who want to have their pain under control. I know my mom is waiting to wake up one day and not feel any pain...to just be normal. I'm sure others will be on offering you support, Ezjim is another member here who had the implants and is going though hbo now. You have found a terrific source for support here. Welcome to OCF. Donna
Donna CG to Mom, dx 4/25/07 with tongue cancer,T3N0,tx began 7/6/07, 31 tx's of IMRT, 8 cycles of Erbitux. Brachytherapy, surgery, left neck dissection and temp trach placed all on 9/17/07, trach removed 10/17/07. ORN of jaw, late effect of radiation symptoms. **lost my beautiful mother on 5/5/11.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 | I'm sorry that I'm not able to give you any input. Please know that I'm thinking of you.
Patty 08-10-09 Partial Glossectomy w/suprahyoid neck dissection SCC T1NOMX Stage I | 46 years old
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | Yes Donna is right, I had the rad seed implants and they almost did me in and was given up on, I came back to the day I before I was being transfered to an extended care facility to en my days . Naw, not for me. I live with pain as yu do and right now am going thru Hyperbaric Oxygen Treatments. I guess this will help the body grow new blood vessels to cover the jawbone that is exposed on the right lower side. I don't complain too much because I am alive and can still laugh and enjoy people. My biggest pain now is driving 194mile round trips for the HBO daily. These you take for 2 hours 5 days a week, I wish I had some advice to give you beacuse I know what you are going thru. I have enough biopsies taken to make a new mouth LOL.. I imagine there are people that would love to see me with a new mouth. LOL One that didn't open so much. Good luck and I hope your Drs do something to ease the pain Momma. Jim
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | I had to have my teeth removed before they even did the rads and chemo, all in prepartion for the rad implants. Sorry I forgot to mention this. Forgot the 3 days in a coma state that turned into 7 also.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
| | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12 Member | OP Member Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12 | Thank you all for the support. It is definetly much needed, because it seems like the doctors have no answers or sympathy. I had 45+ HBO treatments in 04, that's why they don't know what to do, this shouldn't be happening. I will ask about the nuerotnin to see if that's an option. Thank you again.
SCC dx at age 21 4/03, partial glossectomy and partial neck dissection 4/03, IMRT 6/03, cancer free 9/03 HBOT 7/04-10/04, cysts on thyroid 6/06, biopsy and throat endoscopy 4/09, dead bone removed from jawbone 9/09, fibula free flap and partial mandible removed 12/09 6 yr survivor
| | | | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 794 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 794 | Me again. At one time my mom saw a neurologist for the pain, he had her on effexor, antidepressant, for the pain. My mom didn't handle that medication well, it made her sleepy. My sister and I do think that mayb e that helped her a bit. This was in combination with her neuronrin, oxy and advil. She also uses lidocaine topically as needed. Fortunately its not needed as much as it once was.
May I ask what your first name is?
My mom is away currently for at least another week. I will ask her next time I get a chance to talk to her if there was something else that worked.
Donna
Donna CG to Mom, dx 4/25/07 with tongue cancer,T3N0,tx began 7/6/07, 31 tx's of IMRT, 8 cycles of Erbitux. Brachytherapy, surgery, left neck dissection and temp trach placed all on 9/17/07, trach removed 10/17/07. ORN of jaw, late effect of radiation symptoms. **lost my beautiful mother on 5/5/11.
| | | | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 756 Likes: 1 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 756 Likes: 1 | I�ve had complications from RT also � lots of pain and slow healing. My doctors tried a number of different things before I went for HBO.
For pain I also used the Neurontin for a while (plus a number of other prescription pain-killers). My RO also prescribed Trental / Pentoxifylline (400 mg) which was to help with the blood flow issues in the radiated area. He also had me take vitamin E for the same reason (800 IU twice daily). I still continue to take 400 IU of vitamin E twice daily.
My HBO doctor told me that they are unsure how long the effects of the HBO therapy lasts, and that if I needed dental work in the future (5+ years) they may want to have me repeat the HBO treatments.
Perhaps it�s time to switch doctors if you haven�t tried that option already.
I hope you find some relief from the pain soon.
Susan
SCC R-Lateral tongue, T1N0M0 Age 47 at Dx, non-smoker, casual drinker, HPV- Surgery: June 2005 RT: Feb-Apr 2006 HBOT: 45 in 2008; 30 in 2013; 30 in 2022 -> Total 105! Recurrence/Surgeries: Jan & Apr 2010 Biopsy 2/2011: Moderate dysplasia Surgery 4/2011: Mild dysplasia Dental issues: 2013-2022 (ORN)
| | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12 Member | OP Member Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12 | I also saw a nuerologist for neck and shoulder pain and arm numbness and had more tests but results weren't clear or conclusive. The HBO was for radiation burns and did help with my pain for about 3 years. Which is when this pain and jawbone stuff started at the beggining of this year. What is a CCC and how do I find a good one? Will they see me even if I don't have cancer? Thanks, Amanda
SCC dx at age 21 4/03, partial glossectomy and partial neck dissection 4/03, IMRT 6/03, cancer free 9/03 HBOT 7/04-10/04, cysts on thyroid 6/06, biopsy and throat endoscopy 4/09, dead bone removed from jawbone 9/09, fibula free flap and partial mandible removed 12/09 6 yr survivor
| | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12 Member | OP Member Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12 | Thanks for the advice. I have added all your suggestions to my question list for the doctor tomorrow. Hopefully I will get some answers or at least be referred to someone who can give me some answers.
SCC dx at age 21 4/03, partial glossectomy and partial neck dissection 4/03, IMRT 6/03, cancer free 9/03 HBOT 7/04-10/04, cysts on thyroid 6/06, biopsy and throat endoscopy 4/09, dead bone removed from jawbone 9/09, fibula free flap and partial mandible removed 12/09 6 yr survivor
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