| Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 | Hi everyone! My name is Patty. I am currently living in Sitka, Alaska.
About 1 1/2 years ago I noticed a ulcer under my tongue. I ignored it thinking it was just my teeth bothering that area, no big deal. Eventually it began to bother me when I ate and talked. Our visiting ENT doc helped with some dental paste. After a couple of months that seemed to irritate the area more and of course once I quit using it the area seemed to grow. The steroid had just retarded the growth.
Our visiting ENT doc preferred to send me to someone that handles a lot of head/neck cases, which was in Seattle. My husband and I flew to Seattle, had my consult and the next day had my biopsy. He also looked at my esophagus and trachea, that was all clear. The next day he told us it was SCC.
I opted to have a hemi-glossectomy and suprahyoid neck dissection. They did the PET/CT scan and that was all clear. On August 10th, I had my surgery at Swedish Medical Center and all went well. He ended up taking less than he had anticipated, basically just a good chunk off the side of my tongue. I couldn't have been happier with my care, absolutely top notch!
I just went back for my 4 week post op appointment and all my pathology reports were negative. What a relief for now. The only problem I'm having right now is my lower teeth rubbing against my tongue. I don't think it's going to go away, but if it doesn't by my next follow up appointment he wants to do a biopsy (to make sure it's granulation tissue) and then laser the area.
I found OCF when my Mother sent me a link to Collenn Zenk Pinter's website. Her website helped her tremendously and OCF helped me learn what I was dealing with. I've learned a whole lot and really appreciate that it's there.
I'm sorry, I've written a novel. I feel embarrassed to be here, many of you have been through so much compared to me. I really look forward to meeting all of you.
Patty 08-10-09 Partial Glossectomy w/suprahyoid neck dissection SCC T1NOMX Stage I | 46 years old
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Just want to say what a wonderful site this is with lots of wonderful supportive people. I sure that someone will be able to offer information & support to you.
pj x
Surgery to remove tumour from on top of saliva gland 3rd August 09. Biopsy revealed adinoid cystic carcanoma. Further surgery 28th September 09 to remove saliva gland, nerve to top lip (buccal branch) & scar tissue. Radiotherapy finished 30 Dec 2009 IXA x 33 (60gy).
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Just want to say what a wonderful site this is with lots of wonderful supportive people. I sure that someone will be able to offer information & support to you.
pj x
Surgery to remove tumour from on top of saliva gland 3rd August 09. Biopsy revealed adinoid cystic carcanoma. Further surgery 28th September 09 to remove saliva gland, nerve to top lip (buccal branch) & scar tissue. Radiotherapy finished 30 Dec 2009 IXA x 33 (60gy).
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | Patty, this is one place where you can never talk too much. The more you say in words the better the description of the problems you have with OC. Welcome to our home and use it as often as needed and more. Jim
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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Keep us posted on your follow up appointment on the tongue rubbing the teeth issue. You are wise to mention it to your doctor so he can track it and his taking a biopsy next time is a good plan. Don't worry about that as there is no other way for your doctor to really tell that is just granulation and it is better to be safe than sorry. Congratulations on your negative pathology report, I was devastated when my post surgery pathology reports indicated a third recurrence without even more radiation and chemo so I can only imagine your relief. Welcome aboard and sorry you had to join our little club, friendly though it is. charm
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65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
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Welcome and congrats on the report! I also had my surgery done in Seattle only not at Swedish but the UWMC, both have really good ENT departments, but if you ever need a second opinion go to the UW as they are ranked #6 for cancer treatment by US News and World Report and #12 for ENT in the US. Dr. Neil Futran is the head of Otolaryngology there and is top notch if you ever have the need for a second opinion.
Welcome aboard and never worry about talking too much!
Young Frack, SCC T4N2M0, Cisplatin,35+ rads,ND, RT Mandiblectomy w fibular free flap, facial paralysis, "He who has a "why" to live can bear with almost any "how"." -Nietzche "WARNING" PG-13 due to Sarcasm & WAY too much attitude, interact at your own risk.
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Patty 08-10-09 Partial Glossectomy w/suprahyoid neck dissection SCC T1NOMX Stage I | 46 years old
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Angelia 31 at Dx. DX: 4/30/09, 10/21/09 SCC on floor of mouth, T1NOMO, T2N1M0 TX: 39 IMRT, 8 cisplatin 11/30/09 PET/CT: 11/03/09: Lymph node involvement PEG/PORT: 11/09 TX end: 02/01/10 PET Scan: 04/05/10 clear PEG Out: 06/21/10 Biopsy: 12/23/10: fibrosis HBO: 01/04/11 - ORN Baby girl born 11-30-12
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As you can see by my signature, I had a very simlar situation to yours almost 4 1/2 years ago.
It 's good that you are getting your tongue checked out further. If it is determined that your teeth are causing the irritation, a suggestion I might make is to get a plastic night guard fabricated to cover your teeth until your tongue heals up. The guard can be worn all the time, except while you are eating.
BTW, I was in Sitka this past July and really enjoyed my time there.
Jerry
Jerry
Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.
"Whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger"
| | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 | [quote=wilckdds]Hi Patty,
As you can see by my signature, I had a very simlar situation to yours almost 4 1/2 years ago.
It 's good that you are getting your tongue checked out further. If it is determined that your teeth are causing the irritation, a suggestion I might make is to get a plastic night guard fabricated to cover your teeth until your tongue heals up. The guard can be worn all the time, except while you are eating.
BTW, I was in Sitka this past July and really enjoyed my time there.
Jerry
[/quote] I'm glad you enjoyed your time here. Sitka is definitely a beautiful part of Alaska. Hopefully it wasn't raining while you were here! LOL Also, I see that you're in PA. Any chance that you're a Steeler's fan? LOL
I did go to the dentist before this last visit to see about possibly filing away the sharp part of my teeth (thinking that was causing the irritation), but it didn't seem like he wanted to do anything. I'm not real sure about him......just a feeling. For 1 1/2 years, this was not addressed by him or his staff. Not that I'm holding any hard feelings, I let this go for over a year before I did something.......just saying. LOL
But that is actually my concern that I forgot to address with the Doctor, what's to stop it from happening again. It's going to be the first question out of my mouth on this next visit.
See.......here I go writing a novel again! LOL
Patty 08-10-09 Partial Glossectomy w/suprahyoid neck dissection SCC T1NOMX Stage I | 46 years old
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | Patty, this isn't a novel LOL more like a short story. The more info you put out, the better the answers you will receive.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
| | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 | I live on the other side of the state, near Phila. and am an Eagles fan.
Filing the teeth is irreversible, my suggestion might be a better solution.
Don't ever feel that you are writing too much. We're all here to read, listen and help.
Please keep us posted.
Jerry
Jerry
Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.
"Whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger"
| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,912 Likes: 52 OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,912 Likes: 52 | I like Jerry's option. This will help you determine that this is the cause, can be infinitely adjusted thinned smoothed and is a relatively inexpensive process to explore things with. When this solves your problem, you can then decide to continue with it or have any rough areas on you teeth taken down with a bur and polished to a smooth finish. As someone with a minor bit of dental knowledge, I think that the first rule of thumb is to not cut health dentition unless it is absolutely necessary, Once gone, it is gone.
Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant. | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 | Ahhhh.......I see your point now. Thank you~ I searched and ordered lower mouth guards on the internet pre-surgery, but they were all big and bulky. I threw them out once I came home from my surgery. The couple that I bought would now cause more harm than good. Maybe I should just wait for my visit and see what the Doc says or do you have any suggestions on where to look. I'm sorry Jerry, I swear I won't hold it against you for being an Eagles fan.
Patty 08-10-09 Partial Glossectomy w/suprahyoid neck dissection SCC T1NOMX Stage I | 46 years old
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Write away!!! Welcome to OCF where you will find so many caring and helpful people. I don't think I've ever seen a group of people who were so kind and willing to share their experiences and advice. You will feel right at home here... because they make you feel that way. Congrats on your good report!
Nancy T
CG/Mom: 5 1/2 years SCC upper palate,4 recurrences, surgeries, chemo & radiation. Mom went to Heaven 1/21/11. | | | | Joined: May 2008 Posts: 357 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: May 2008 Posts: 357 | Hi, Patty -
My surgery was also minor compared to many here, and I didn't have treatment following the surgery. I often felt unworthy to take part in discussions because, well, I didn't "suffer" as much as others. But I found out no one's keeping score. The only score that matters is the one that beats OC. We're all on the same team, and every member counts.
Recurrence is something we all think about. My dr. told me that if I could guarantee him a 30% return on his investment, he'd guarantee me it wouldn't come back. Vigilance, self-advocacy and a good medical team are our best weapons. Someone here put it in perspective - to paraphrase - I survived cancer, I can survive anything they throw at me.
Good luck with you latest problem.
Marlene
Marginal mandibulectomy 6/17/08 resulted in DX of Stage I SCC - gingiva (3 mm) right mandible, buccal side. Clear margins. Occasional social drinker. Smoked last cigarette in 1979. Clear pet: 12/08; 7/20/09. Yay!
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I'm so glad that you've received good follow-up news so far (except, of course, having SCC in the first place is enough in and of itself). This board has been so helpful to me and it I hope it will be to you as well.
Sophie
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Sophie T.
CG to husband: SCC Stage 4, T4, N1, M0; non-smoker and very light social drinker; HPV+ induction chemo begun 7/07; chemo/radiation ended 10/10, first cat scan clear; scan on 5/9/08 clear, scan on 10/08 clear; scan 1/09 clear; scan 1/10 clear; passed away July 2, 2016
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Patty 08-10-09 Partial Glossectomy w/suprahyoid neck dissection SCC T1NOMX Stage I | 46 years old
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Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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There are no store bought night guards that will serve the purpose as you have found out. It is a simple procedure to have the dentist take impressions and in a few days, you could have a custom made night guard.
How does someone living in Alaska become a Steelers fan? Are you a transplanted Pennsylvanian?
Jerry
Jerry
Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.
"Whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger"
| | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 | Thanks Jerry, I thought that would be the case but I had to ask.
LOL Steeler fans are all over! My husband was born in New Castle, PA. He's in the Coast Guard and we've been in Sitka for a little over 2 years. What's even funnier, our neighbor is a Steeler fan too! LOL
Patty 08-10-09 Partial Glossectomy w/suprahyoid neck dissection SCC T1NOMX Stage I | 46 years old
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Those impressions are not cheap so keep them away from cats. I speak from vast experience!!
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 | [quote=boatswife]Hi everyone! I just went back for my 4 week post op appointment and all my pathology reports were negative. What a relief for now. The only problem I'm having right now is my lower teeth rubbing against my tongue. I don't think it's going to go away, but if it doesn't by my next follow up appointment he wants to do a biopsy (to make sure it's granulation tissue) and then laser the area. [/quote]
I figured it would just be easier to update this thread. The spot never went away and looks like a bunch of scar tissue now with granulation tissue? in the middle. We leave Monday for Seattle to have my 2nd follow up appointment and on Wednesday I should be getting that area biopsied and then he'll laser the area also.
I'm being positive that everything will be ok, but I don't think the fear ever goes away. "What if's" really suck! So if you would please keep me in your thoughts and prayers next week, I'd certainly appreciate it.
I hope everyone has a good week.
Patty 08-10-09 Partial Glossectomy w/suprahyoid neck dissection SCC T1NOMX Stage I | 46 years old
| | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,412 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,412 | I will be praying for you. yes, the What if's really do suck. I am still waiting for the fear to go away after 5 months, and it is still there. Both of us will be getting asnwers next week. Good luck.
Angelia 31 at Dx. DX: 4/30/09, 10/21/09 SCC on floor of mouth, T1NOMO, T2N1M0 TX: 39 IMRT, 8 cisplatin 11/30/09 PET/CT: 11/03/09: Lymph node involvement PEG/PORT: 11/09 TX end: 02/01/10 PET Scan: 04/05/10 clear PEG Out: 06/21/10 Biopsy: 12/23/10: fibrosis HBO: 01/04/11 - ORN Baby girl born 11-30-12
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Age 52, T2 N0 M0 SCC of left anterior floor of mouth. Esophagoscopy, Direct laryngoscopy, Resection of left anterior FOM lesion w/ lateral tongue. left selective neck dissection levels I-IV. 5x6cm skin graft coverng excision. Finished 33-35 rad Tx. False recurrence 12-22-10 last surgery 2-15-10
| | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,219 | I don't think the fear ever goes away. After 4 and a half years, I still worry when something looks or feels funny.
Patty, you will be in my thoughts this week.
Jerry
Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.
"Whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger"
| | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 | Update: Negative biopsy on frozen section and I did fine with him using the laser to clean up that granulation tissue. The spot on tongue is a little raw, but doing fine.
Thanks for thinking of me~
Patty 08-10-09 Partial Glossectomy w/suprahyoid neck dissection SCC T1NOMX Stage I | 46 years old
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | I have all of you in my prayers and if anyone of us didn't worry, we have no value on our life. God gave this life to us and when he dsays enough, it's bye bye world and hello heaven. Life is one thing we can't control, but can make it smoother or the road bumpier.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
| | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 Gold Member (200+ posts) | OP Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 229 | Thanks Jim and a bunch of hugs headed your way~
Patty 08-10-09 Partial Glossectomy w/suprahyoid neck dissection SCC T1NOMX Stage I | 46 years old
| | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,412 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,412 | So glad to read that your biopsy was negative. I pray you continue to have cancer free appointments.
Angelia 31 at Dx. DX: 4/30/09, 10/21/09 SCC on floor of mouth, T1NOMO, T2N1M0 TX: 39 IMRT, 8 cisplatin 11/30/09 PET/CT: 11/03/09: Lymph node involvement PEG/PORT: 11/09 TX end: 02/01/10 PET Scan: 04/05/10 clear PEG Out: 06/21/10 Biopsy: 12/23/10: fibrosis HBO: 01/04/11 - ORN Baby girl born 11-30-12
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