Quite right Joanna and rickt, thanks for responding so quickly, I really needed to hear from someone in a bad way. I'm really thinking about just trying to do it cold turkey. I know full well that I'm in danger. I don't want to die, and I don't want to go through the difficult treatments. There is no thought neccessary, just action. Listen to me, I sound so cavalier, I'm in for a rough few weeks trying to give up the tobacco, but like you said, considering the alternative, there is no choice to make.