| | Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 95 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 95 | Many head and neck cancer patients are treated by irradiation. This treatment can take a heavy emotional and physical toll. A manuscript that presents my personal experiences as a physician undergoing radiation therapy for throat cancer was just published in Support Care Cancer. The manuscript can be obtained at http://bit.ly/mTp1EyI describe the physical and emotional effects of the radiation treatment and how I coped with them. The side effects that emerged during of the radiation treatment included: fatigue, mental cloudiness, pain and dryness in my throat, food aversion, inability to taste, skin burning around the neck. It is my hope that both patients and health care providers will benefit from reading my personal story. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Hey Doc
I did not realize until I read this manuscript that you were a PEG resister also. We've had some heated discussions on PEGs here and it's good to know that a seasoned doctor like yourself elected to avoid a feeding tube. But then again, you are in my age group and as I noted before, Michael Douglas and other age contemporaries of ours tend to decline getting a feeding tube. I actually enjoyed the camaraderie of the waiting room at the basement radiation of Georgetown Hospital. The actual radiation not so much. Keep up the good work Charm 65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 167 Senior Member (100+ posts) | | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 167 | Thank you for sharing your manuscript and experience with us Dr. Brook. The part about being too tired to actively quit treatment really resonated with me.
Charm - we all get it- big, strong, proud men prove themselves by making it through treatment without the support of alternate nutrition/hydration - the rest of us aren't quite as strong. I believe that's your message - and I believe it's a harmful one for some readers on this site.
I think it's fair to say that we are ALL "resisters" of feeding tubes - no one here wanted one/ wants one/ or is happy to have one.
Jennifer (39) 02/10 SCCa Tongue & Base, HPV- 03/10 Partial Glossectomy & ND 11/10 Revision due to additional nodes 12/20-2/2/11 IMRT & concommitant chemo 2/11 PEG in 3/11 PEG out Back at work and feeling good 03/24/11! 12/20/11 - 9 month f/u PET/CT - all clear!
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Not my message at all. Just like the posters here who fear addiction and don't take pain pills aren't saying they are better. My message is that there is nothing wrong with "resisting" the relentless pressure to get a feeding tube. Comments like yours usually silence posters who aren't used to rhetoric and hyperbole. If you scroll thru the last three years, you will see that I've been regularly denounced for standing up to the PEGophiles. Heck, even Brian chimed in at the beginning. My belief is that I will be vindicated on the PEG issue just as I am finally being vindicated on the Neck dissection issue as some recent posts indicate. Finally it's not fair to say that just not wanting to have something happen or not being happy that something happens makes one a "resister". Nobody wants to have a War, nor be in Iraq or Afghanistan, nobody is happy to have these Wars, yet they are not war resisters. My best friend in law school was a war resister and faced federal prosecution for it. Words have real meanings and by definition a feeding tube resister does not get one. I'm am no longer a resister to my chagrin. Charm 65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 638 "OCF Down Under" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | | "OCF Down Under" "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2010 Posts: 638 | Loved the article Dr Brook (hope you don't mind I saved it for my Alex)
Alex and I also stuggled with the apparent lack of empathy from the RO around side effects and turned to the nurses and speech pathologist for practical support. Our RO kept telling Alex to "eat more" and "try harder" and that he couldn't see any reason why he still couldn't eat. This, despite the fact he had a report from the modified barium swallow that told him Alex had real functional issues with swallowing.
There is so much more but I will not go on ...
Karen
Karen Love of Life to Alex T4N2M0 SCC Tonsil, BOT, R lymph nodes Dx March 2010 51yrs. Unresectable. HPV+ve Tx Chemo x 3+1 cycles(cisplatin,docetaxel,5FU)- complete May 31 Chemoradiation (IMRTx35 + weekly cisplatin) Finish Aug 27 Return to work 2 years on 3 years out Aug 27 2013 NED  Still underweight
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 571 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 571 | Oh Karen! Your RO experience sounds very much like ours! Had J continued with treatment, we would have fired J's RO. We didn't plan to just switch docs quietly, but fire him. I had already verbally given the RO a new excretory orifice by the time J got his 3rd opinion. The RO felt he knew what it was like to be a cancer patient because he treated them. Wrong. We had a little coming to Jesus and he admitted he didn't know what patients feel and experience. In addition, he was oblivious about the psychological importance of second opinions and being completely on-board with treatment. All this from a man who had been an RO for 20 years. Back on topic...
Seems to me that staying nourished is of primary importance. Preserving the swallowing mechanism/ability would be a hair's-width behind it. To me, if you have a PEG it might help to try to get along without using it much. Or, use it but still drink whatever is tolerable (or not impossible) to drink.
Regarding machismo...let's hope no one will sacrifice a better outcome and end up severly ill due to malnutrition because they are too proud to PEG. But, if going through treatment without a PEG is a goal that empowers someone and it works for them, then great!
No two people have the same experience with treatment and so people should be gentle with themselves if they have a tougher time than someone else. Like everything else, it boils down to expectation management.
Sandy
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Ex-spouse MISDIAGNOSED with SCC-HN IVa 12/10. Tonsils out 1/11. 4 teeth out 2/11. TX Erbitux x2, IMRT x2 2/11. 2nd opinion-benign BCC-NOT CANCER 3/11. TX stopped 3/11. New doctors 4/11. ENT agrees with 2nd opinion 5/11. ENT scoped him-all clear 7/11. Ordered MRI anyway. MRI 8/22/11 Result-all clear.
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