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#99999 07-23-2009 01:39 PM
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Rex has his follow up appt tomorrow with all the drs. I am really kind of scared and not sure what to expect. I know that we have had a lot ups and downs during this entire ordeal. I thought that treatment would be done and he would be better. That's not the case at all. He is still so tired and in pain. He sleeps alot. Now he has to sleep sitting up or he feels like he is chocking, so I am sleeping on the floor.
We have been to the emergency room do to the problem with breathing. He says that everything sits in his chest.
He is allowed to have water but nothing else by mouth. He is on his feeding tube. I am in hopes tomorrow they will let him start eating. Not sure how quickly that starts.
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Pat


Crgvr to Husband 55-yrs, surgery to remove cyst-diagnosed as SCC, 4/3/09 CT & Pet Scan showed more cancer in left lymph node and primary at the base of the tongue.TX Radiation 7 weeks 5 days a week last day is 6/25/09
Chemo completed 6/19/09
Peg Tube 5/22/09
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Oof, Pat... I think I'll get 100% consensus when I say that finishing treatment is absolutely NOT the beginning of being better. For most of us, its the beginning of feeling worse! Radiation is cumiliative so the worst effects don't happen until its over.

As far as eating, is there a reason he can't take more than water by mouth? Also, is he doing any sort of stretching exercises for his jaw muscles? Those are very, very important!

One more thing, from your signature line, there is no such thing as 'routine' surgery. That is, it might be routine for the doctor, but it sure isn't routine for the patient or his or her family! I sure hope the appointment tomorrow goes well. I suspect the docs will do a thorough exam of your husband's mouth and throat, possibly with the scope, and they'll want to know generally how he's doing and feeling. It should be pretty 'routine.'

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Stage IV SCC lt lateral tongue, surgery 5/19/08 (partial gloss/upper neck dissection left side/radial free flap reconstruction) IMRT w/weekly Cisplatin & Erbitux 6/30/08, PEG 1 6/12/08 - out 7/14 (in abdominal wall, not stomach), PEG 2 7/23/08 - out 11/20/08, Tx done 8/18/08
Second SCC tumor, Stage 1, rt mobile tongue, removed 10/18/2016, right neck dissection 12/9/2016
Third SCC tumor, diagnosed, 4/19/2108, rt submandibular mass, HPV-, IMRT w/ weekly Cisplatin, 5/9 - 6/25/2018, PEG 3 5/31/2018
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Why is he not trying to eat whatever he feels like? Did his docs say not to eat by mouth? That would be unusual.

As Margaret says the first few weeks post Tx are usually by far the worst for most of us and also remember that his recovery will be very slow lasting the better part of 2 years. For me I didn't think I was going to live until the 3rd week post Tx. I called it "finally walking out of a dark tunnel". Even then I had more bad days than good ones and slowly the good days began to out number the bad days until eventually the bad days went away but this was months after my Tx had ended. I felt as weak as a new born kitten for a long time but again slowly all will return to an almost pre normal state. My taste and saliva took 15 months before I was satisfied and now I guess I'm around 90 to 95% pre normal.

Another very important thing to keep in mind is that we all can react differently so tell him he will recover at his own pace but I do know that I felt better when I was consuming at least 3000 calories a day.


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Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Margaret,
What I meant by routine surgery is they didn't know when they were going to do the surgery he had cancer. They thought it was a cyst. Will you help me to word that differently?
I wasn't sure how to put that in there.
Dah for me
Pat


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Chemo completed 6/19/09
Peg Tube 5/22/09
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Oh wow, Pat, I totally misunderstood! Duh for me **blushing**

Maybe you could say,

Crgvr to Husband 55-yrs, surgery to remove cyst-diagnosed as SCC, 4/3/09


Stage IV SCC lt lateral tongue, surgery 5/19/08 (partial gloss/upper neck dissection left side/radial free flap reconstruction) IMRT w/weekly Cisplatin & Erbitux 6/30/08, PEG 1 6/12/08 - out 7/14 (in abdominal wall, not stomach), PEG 2 7/23/08 - out 11/20/08, Tx done 8/18/08
Second SCC tumor, Stage 1, rt mobile tongue, removed 10/18/2016, right neck dissection 12/9/2016
Third SCC tumor, diagnosed, 4/19/2108, rt submandibular mass, HPV-, IMRT w/ weekly Cisplatin, 5/9 - 6/25/2018, PEG 3 5/31/2018
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Rex had his swallowing test today and he is now allowed to eat some soft foods. Jello, soup, smashed fruits. That's a good deal for him and a big deal. They were very pleased at his progress in healing and told him he was doing a good job of taking care of himself. His potsassium was low so they upped that dose, they told him however to continue taking all meds throug the tube and not to take by mouth.
We go back in a month to the medical onocologist.


Crgvr to Husband 55-yrs, surgery to remove cyst-diagnosed as SCC, 4/3/09 CT & Pet Scan showed more cancer in left lymph node and primary at the base of the tongue.TX Radiation 7 weeks 5 days a week last day is 6/25/09
Chemo completed 6/19/09
Peg Tube 5/22/09
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Great news.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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That is wonderful news!! I'm so happy to hear Rex can start eating some soft foods. I love to hear the good news:)


Suzanne
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T1 SCC on right side of tongue
Age 31...27 when diagnosed
4 partial glossectomies
No chemo or radiation
Biopsy on 2/2/10-Clear
Surgery needed again...no later than April 2011
Loving life and just became a mother on 11/25/10
It's not what we CAN'T do..it's what we CAN do:)
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Fantastic news! Smashed bananas are full of potassium! Yum.


38 yo@dx, female, non-smoker, non-drinker, SCC right lateral tongue. T2N2aMx stage IVa; 1/20/09 bilateral neck dissection, hemiglossectomy, micromets in 2 right nodes, left all clear. 33xIMRT + 3 cisplatins. Tx completed 5/08/09. PET scan 7/29/09 clear, 5/26/10 clear, chest x-ray 5/23/11 clear

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