| Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 489 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 489 | True Charm - after every treatment I had the imprint of the mesh on my face for quite awhile. I agree with you. They called me back to remake my first one because they did not have my head positioned just right. This last one was actually tighter than the first two, but all of the equipment was different also.
Patty
48 SCC Floor of Mouth 7/06 9/06 Surgery, bilateral neck dissection, 58 nodes clear PT2pN0pMx 35 rad 2006 Recurred 6/08, 1 Carboplatin, 1 Cisplatin Surgery 9/08 - Total glossectomy, free flap from pectoral muscle, left mandible replaced using fibula 35 IMRT & Erbitux 11/08 4/15/09 recurrence 6/1/09 passed away, rest in peace
| | | | Joined: May 2008 Posts: 551 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2008 Posts: 551 | Geri,
I was given Aloxi and Emend during my weekly treatment on Tuesday, took the Emend for two days immediately post treatment, as prescribed, and then I'd go back in on Fridays for another dose of Aloxi and 1.5 liters of fluid. This seemed to work very well for me and with my PEG tube, I fundamentally lost no weight during treatment and had no trouble with dehydration or nausea. (Afterwards, as I was transitioning off the PEG I did lose weight, though.)
As far as my skin, for whatever reason, I didn't experience bad burns which, being fair-skinned, I had expected. I used an aloe-based moisturizer from the Body Shop and had a couple of smallish blisters that developed about 10 days post-treatment.
Not sure if this helps or not.
- Margaret
Stage IV SCC lt lateral tongue, surgery 5/19/08 (partial gloss/upper neck dissection left side/radial free flap reconstruction) IMRT w/weekly Cisplatin & Erbitux 6/30/08, PEG 1 6/12/08 - out 7/14 (in abdominal wall, not stomach), PEG 2 7/23/08 - out 11/20/08, Tx done 8/18/08 Second SCC tumor, Stage 1, rt mobile tongue, removed 10/18/2016, right neck dissection 12/9/2016 Third SCC tumor, diagnosed, 4/19/2108, rt submandibular mass, HPV-, IMRT w/ weekly Cisplatin, 5/9 - 6/25/2018, PEG 3 5/31/2018
| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | Cheryl, I would like to add another comment about RT and the recovery time. Another poster here stated that "the worst if it is over in 7 weeks". That's not quite accurate. About 7 weeks is when you will finally start to see some improvement in your condition. Stated another way, at the end of 7 weeks you will start measuring your forward progress in three week increments for several months post Tx. The post Tx effects of the RT alone gone on for about 3 weeks. The general rule has always been that it takes one month of recovery for each week of radiation. I was in great health going into treatment and tried my best to defy the rule - not. Once again, this is not to discourage you and all of us respond differently to treatment but I am a firm believer in planning for the worst case scenario. It was a good 2 years until I was about 95% of where I was pre Tx. After 2 years, some collateral damage stared to appear in my fibrotic neck muscles, as a result of the radiation. I have muscle spasms fairly frequently as a result and others here have reported the same effects. My side effecrs have been relatively tame.
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Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 489 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 489 | Wow Gary. One Month for each week of treatment! That helps me feel better about where I am right now - still very red, dry, flaky, itchy BUT not bleeding from the neck any more. I had not heard this info before thanks
Patty
48 SCC Floor of Mouth 7/06 9/06 Surgery, bilateral neck dissection, 58 nodes clear PT2pN0pMx 35 rad 2006 Recurred 6/08, 1 Carboplatin, 1 Cisplatin Surgery 9/08 - Total glossectomy, free flap from pectoral muscle, left mandible replaced using fibula 35 IMRT & Erbitux 11/08 4/15/09 recurrence 6/1/09 passed away, rest in peace
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Gary my 7 weeks begins the 4th week of Tx and ends the 3rd week post Tx and I think that is the worst period for the majority of us that got radiation. Sure there are some that get worse earlier and some that stay worse longer but there are also the ones that are hardly affected by this Tx. I always qualify my statements that all of us can be affected differently but I believe that for the most of us that 7 week period is the worst and I just want people to understand that in the grand scheme of things the worst WILL ONLY last about 7 weeks. Weird way of trying to comfort or give hope to someone but it's the best I can come with this barbaric Tx.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 507 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 507 | It seem the the month for each week is a good benchmark for getting back to normal (or a new normal), but somewhat like David said, for me the worst was the last week of so of Tx and the month after(totally drained).
I also had a lot of difficulty for several months post Tx with eating and weight(after the PEG was removed) because of poor taste and little or no appitite.
Don TXN2bM0 Stage IVa SCC-Occult Primary FNA 6/6/08-SCC in node<2cm PET/CT 6/19/08-SCC in 2nd node<1cm HiRes CT 6/21/08 Exploratory,Tonsillectomy(benign),Right SND 6/23/08 PEG 7/3/08-11/6/08 35 TomoTherapy 7/16/08-9/04/08 No Chemo Clear PET/CT 11/15/08, 5/15/09, 5/28/10, 7/8/11
| | | | Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 83 Supporting Member (50+ posts) | Supporting Member (50+ posts) Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 83 | Recovery varies for everyone. Your treatments and procedures were much more serious and invasive as I only had Chemo, RAD and selective neck dissection. My worst time was the week after my last Chemo and Rad. I had surgery about 30 days after treatments were complete. Back to maybe 85% 30 days after surgery but was playing golf, working..... Good news is I started to put weight on pretty soon, the bad news is that is was from my sweet tooth coming back before anything else. Before SCC I was not much of a sweets person, I now know it is easy to put on weight when you eat a lot of cake/ice cream, etc. It just takes time.
Bill Van Horn-53 ex-smoker, social drinker, Biopsy 8/24, Diagnosed 8/30/07 BOT T2N2-B MX Stage IV. Started treatments 10/1/07. IMRT 35 x, Cisplatin - 3 cycles - completed treatment 11/16/07. CT Scans on 1/15/08 all clear Selective neck dissection 1/28/08. All nodes clear.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | On average and everything being equal it takes an extra 500 calories each day for 7 days to equal 1 extra pound and vise verse.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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