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#56600 06-27-2005 01:10 AM
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What a subject to have to ask about--constipation! My husband still uses PEG (one yr. out) although he has begun to eat solid food once a day--only abt. 2 T full--thus, there's little to no fiber in his diet. He also takes Dilaudid which also adds to constipation problems. Any ideas on how to relieve c. probs?

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It was sort of hit or miss with the stool softeners in my case. Although, I did buy a bottle of them based on suggestions from the OCF. I ended up switching to Ducolax suppositories for cased of extreme emergency.

A friend of mine recommended that I should try prune juice right into the feeding tube, but I never did try that. My dietician had ordered not only the Prosure for the PEG, but also a few cases of food that had high fiber content to it.

One of the many reasons I wanted off my pain meds so quickly was due to the constipation issues. However, I don't know which problem is worse, constipation or uh.... the other extreme. Sometimes I think we are striving for a happy medium.

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Prune juice through the PEG tube and 1 tsp. of flax oil twice a day was helpful for me when I was using Ensure Plus. I discontinued prune juice when I switched to Fibersource with "Benefiber."


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12/04 SCC Tonsil, Stage IV T3N2BM0. Mod RND, resect right oropharynx, free-flap, resect right tongue base. Erbitux,Docetaxel,RT X 33. 6/08 Mets lung, hilar lymph node:Carboplatin, Docetaxel. 2010 2nd clinical trial:lung clear, node stable. ORN,trismus,dysphagia. 8-10/2012 cryoablation,brachytherapy,cyberknife to lymph node. 12/12 NED. 6/13 Mets RLL lung: 8/13 cyberknife. 11/13 NED.
#56603 06-27-2005 09:56 AM
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My mom used the prune juice, but switched to Milk of Magnesia due to advice from the Chemo nurse. It really helped and we were able to use it right through the Peg mixed with some water.


Was Primary caregiver to my mom who had stage IV, SCC, Supraglottic with Mets to 4 nodes. Diagnosed Feb 04, died unexpectedly from complications from treatment December 17, 2004.
#56604 06-28-2005 07:39 PM
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That's a LONG time to be on Dilaudid - how come? Stoping the narcotics will have a dramatic effect on the constipation issues. If he suffers from chronic pain of some sort and can't get off of them then what others have told you should work.

I spent a lot of time curled up in a fetal position on the bathroom floor from just those very issues. As soon as I weaned myself of the narcotics the problem went away. Constipation is actually asked about a lot here. Do a search on "all open forums" on the word and a number of threads will pop up.


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#56605 06-29-2005 05:10 PM
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I am really glad to see the other "big C" issue discussed because John is having that problem also [so is my 14 mo. old grandaughter] so any imput is welcomed laugh Actually, I don't know why we are so hesitant to talk about it. It's one of the most advertised maladies on T.V. today. I got some great hints for John to try tonite. Thanks. Amy


CGtoJohn:SCC Flr of Mouth.Dx 3\05. Surg.4\05.T3NOMO.IMRTx30. Recur Dx 1\06.Surg 2\06. Chemo: 4 Cycles of Carbo\Taxol:on Erbitux for 7 mo. Lost our battle 2-23-07- But not the will to fight this disease

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What helped me was what was alluded to at the start of this thread - fiber. I use Isosource which has a small amount of fiber, but I supplement it with Equate Fiber Therapy from Wal-Mart. Benifiber is good but too expensive for me. I usually take a teaspoon full in a glass of water before I take the Isosource. Do NOT mix it with your drink if it already has fiber in it. I tried adding fiber to my Isosource and ot would clump up and I would have a hard time getting it through without making a mess. I am now eating solids most of the time but I sometimes will take a can and when I do I take fiber with it.

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When I was on prescription pain meds, I had to take daily two "Senesol" pills ground up and put through the PEG--along with the occassional stool softener. But I didn't need the stool softener that often unless I forgot the Senesol pills for a day. My medical oncologist once said the three main problems with taking prescription pain meds for cancer are not addiction but "constipation, constipation and constipation". You have to stay really on top of it too in a daily way........


SCC(T2N0M0) part.glossectomy & neck dissect 2/9/05 & 2/25/05.33 IMRT(66 Gy),2 Cisplatin ended 06/03/05.Stage I breast cancer treated 2/05-11/05.Surgery to remove esophageal stricture 07/06, still having dilatations to keep esophagus open.Dysphagia. "When you're going through hell, keep going"
#56608 01-04-2006 02:02 AM
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The chemo nurses at Hopkins recommend an herbal tea, "Smooth Move," for chemo and pain med-induced constipation. It is a senna tea and supposedly gentler and more effective than Senakot. We bought some and it tastes pretty good! It is readily available from health food stores.

The advantage of the tea (they said) was that as a liquid it can easily be given to folks on feeding tubes.

Gail


CG to husband Barry, dx. 7/21/05, age 66, SCC rgt. tonsil, BOT, 2 nodes (stg. IV), HPV+, tonsillectomy, 7x carboplatin, 35x tomoTherapy IMRT w/ Ethyol @ Johns Hopkins, thru treatment 9/28/05, HPV vaccine trial 12/06-present. Looking good!
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i have a JG tube, not a PEG, but I inject pepcid into it daily (2.5ML) and also Docusate Sodium (10ML), and this seems to keep everything regular. I'm not sure that'll work as a long term solution though. That's for a doctor to answer.


Diagnosed 6/05. Stage III SCC of the oral tongue. Nodes showed negative upon biopsy. 7/25/05 started Chemo of Cisplatin & Erbitux & 30 IMRT Sessions + daily Ethyol. 12/9/05, 75% hemi-glossectomy. Recovering since.
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