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#38930 08-11-2005 03:06 AM
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As most of you know, I had the PEG "installed" on Monday.

I just wanted to update this thread one last time, and let it drift out into cyber space.

As far as asking questions that may have been answered in the past:

1) Things change all the time, and I encourage anyone to bring up issues that may have more pertinent data, or even more importantly a new board member's perspective on the particular topic.

2) If you ask a specific, targeted question, you can get asnwers that are more balanced to your issues.

For instance, I asked simply: "Can I swim with a PEG..?"

This resulted in pages of interesting information, some addressing the question, other's addressing questions I was thinking but didn't necessarily formulate.

This "banter" is healthy and important.

The irony here is the following:

I spoke to 3 surgeons and 4 fellows at Sloan.

Everyone of them say's once the incision is healed (5 to 8 days) swimming is NO PROBLEM.

So, in the end, it didn't matter, but we got a wealth of great conversation from the question.

Although, off topic for this thread, someone commmented about religion based posts.

For the record, it doesn't offend ME. I feel like we all have different views, and the world has several dominate faiths. It's important to some to be able to express their views, to the extent that it doesn't offend others.

Remember, a lot of what we say and do in a post can be as much for our own good as the person or people to whom we are posting.

Thank you John for the reminder that I may not even feel up to swimming! It's just after a sweltering NY summer day, a cool swim feels great! I will likely just want to curl up in bed with the AC on MAX and watch I LOVE LUCY reruns instead :-)


Michael | 53 | SCC | Right Tonsil | Dx'd: 06-10-05 | STAGE IV, T3N2bM0 | 3 Nodes R Side | MRND & Tonsillectomy 06/29/05 Dr Fee/Stanford | 8 wks Rad/Chemo startd August 15th @ MSKCC, NY | Tx Ended: 09-27-05 | Cancer free at 16+ Yrs | After-Effects of Tx: Thyroid function is 0, ok salivary function, tinnitus, some scars, neck/face asymmetry, gastric reflux. 2017 dysphagia, L Carotid stent / 2019, R Carotid occluded not eligible for stent.2022 dental issues, possible ORN, memory/recall challenges.
#38931 08-11-2005 08:28 AM
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While I appreciate Michael's view that religious posts do not offend him, over the last few years we have found, in painful ways on this board, that they do offend some. We have gotten off into faith healing vs. treatment, cancer as something that God put in your path to be overcome (too many do not) God not giving you challenges that you can't deal with (please tell that to the family members of those who have lost their loved ones here), and more. We have seen Christianity, which is a religion that was taught as one of love and tolerance, to have proponents here with no tolerance as found in some people's postings, in particular a couple of years ago trashing a Buddhist poster that we had. (We won't go into various religions toll on humanity through the crusades, the Spanish inquisition, and so much more.) Those hurtful postings have all been deleted from these forums. We have had strong science people on the board get into theological discussions with creationists, finally leaving, and taking the valuable oncology based knowledge with them over it all


Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant.
#38932 08-11-2005 10:29 AM
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An 8 Ball? Brian, is that a clinical term? I did a forum search and all I got back was information on some kind of recreational activity.

#38933 08-11-2005 12:52 PM
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Its the same as being black balled or in other terms...one that didnt fit in the group and had to be dealt with

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I thought you got that from a well placed kick....


Mark, 21 Year survivor, SCC right tonsil, 3 nodes positive, one with extra-capsular spread. I never asked what stage (would have scared me anyway) Right side tonsillectomy, radical neck dissection right side, maximum radiation to both sides, no chemo, no PEG, age 40 when diagnosed.
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There is no mercy on these boards...... remember what they say about payback.


Brian, stage 4 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director. The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality. The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a servant.
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