#38698 06-23-2005 05:00 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 25 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 25 | Just started 3rd week IMRT. Boom! sudden onsit of side effects, in 24hrs. I can handle the thick sputum, the tube feedings, loss of voice, difficulty or inability to swallow. But sudden onset of pain is getting to me. Viscous Xylocain doesn't touch it. Feels like hot poker in throat full time and then worse when I attempt to swallow. Any suggestions, please. Edd | | |
#38699 06-23-2005 06:15 AM | Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 | Hi Edd, I didn't have the pain you are having, but my side effects hit me in 24hrs like yours have. Your RO should have someone on call 24/7 to help manage this. Call the hospital now and get some stronger pain meds.
Take care, Eileen
---------------------- Aug 1997 unknown primary, Stage III mets to 1 lymph node in neck; rt ND, 36 XRT rad Aug 2001 tiny tumor on larynx, Stage I total laryngectomy; left ND June 5, 2010 dx early stage breast cancer June 9, 2011 SCC 1.5 cm hypo pharynx, 70% P-16 positive, no mets, Stage I
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#38700 06-24-2005 02:02 AM | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 108 Gold Member (100+ posts) | Gold Member (100+ posts) Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 108 | Hi Edd; All progress stops at the feet of pain. Your nutrition goes down the tubes, your strength and resolve to fight this rotten illness takes a beating as well. I'm with Eileen, get hold of the oncology folks and holler if necessary...you need better pain control. They might want to take at peek at things as well. You may have a severe mucositis, but I'm not a doc, and that's just what you need. Keep at it, the onco team is there to help you through this...it's their job, and for some, a vocation. All the best, Fran B.
SCC Base of tongue diag. April 04 Stage IV, mets to rt. neck multiple nodes 35 rads+8 boosts First recurrence Jan05. Rt.rad neck dissection Feb02/05. Recurred with bone mets in neck July 05. Committed to survival with dignity.
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#38701 06-24-2005 03:16 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 25 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 25 | Thanks, people, My RO said it is mucositis, no suprise. Topical xylocain no help. Awful tough to look at 5-6 more weeks of this. I'm a little cautious of pain pills, but might have to throw caution to the wind. Pain all noc, no sleep. Edd | | |
#38702 06-24-2005 01:02 PM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | No pills - get a Duragesic patch- you don't have to swallow and you can't puke it up.
Pain management is a basic patient RIGHT - demand it.
That topical swish & spit is only for eating or swallowing - it's effects only last a very short time. You will also need long term and short term narcotics. The long term stuff, like oxycontin or duragesic keeps a lid on the basic pain threshold and are slower acting. The short term ones, like morphine, etc. are for breakthrough pain that goes over the top of the pain threshold maintained by the long term stuff.
It will only get worse -get the meds as soon as you can.
What is there to be cautious about? People who really need pain meds rarely get addicted. I am a recovering addict/alcoholic and had no problems with the pain meds. Keeping a lid on the pain will greatly improve your healing.
It could be much longer than 4-5 weeks. I was on pain meds almost 6 months.
Constipation will become an issue so talk to your nutritionist about preventive measures.
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
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#38703 06-24-2005 06:04 PM | Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 284 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 284 | Get the patch. My mom was very anti pain pills etc and the patch made her feel as normal as she could be with all the side effects but no pain. Hang in there Edd! Dani
Originally joined OCF on 12/12/03 as DaniO or Danijams Dani-Mom SCC BOT & floor of mouth surgery-recur then surgery/rads & chemo completed 3/04 surgery 11/06 to remove dead bone & replace jaw w/ leg bone & titanium plate
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#38704 06-24-2005 06:20 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,140 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,140 Likes: 1 | Edd, Fentynl (sp?) patches, which can be increased in increments of I believe 25 mg, were a lifesaver for me. I experienced no side effects and had abolutely complete pain relief from really, really bad rad burns to my really, really fair skin.
If I ever have ongoing pain in the future, you can bet I am going to ask for those. Give them a try.
I found no addiction problem, and pretty much stopped cold, but the beauty of these is that you can step down the amount gradually if you think there will be a problem, just as you can increase them gradually to deal with pain levels.
I was very stubborn about not using anything and resisted until I could not stop shaking, and looked so wretched that I was told I was going into shock. I gave in and wish I had weeks earlier.
This is one situation where drugs are very, very good! | | |
#38705 06-25-2005 05:07 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 25 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 25 | | | |
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