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#183336 07-13-2014 08:26 AM
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Estelle Offline OP
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Sorry for posting something negative, but I'm sad and I can't understand what I'm doing wrong.

I joined two facebook groups, one for survivors of tongue cancer, and the other survivors of oral head and neck cancer.

I posted only a couple of times in both groups, the last time, I was just asking for some friendly tips from other survivors - I don't even know if I *am* going to be a survivor yet.... tips about fibrosis in your neck, etc.

What I got back was just so hurtful and unfriendly.

One person said that he had been through much worse than me and accused me of complaining, he said "forget about your pain".

In the other group one person replied with just 3 words "ASK YOUR DOCTOR".

What is wrong with me? Why have they been so cold and unfriendly? I've had the same horrible experiences as they have, and aren't we supposed to be helping each other???

Honestly, I feel so hurt and rejected. As if all this wasn't painful enough. I'm so lonely.


Mar 99 white patch tongue
Dec 11 white patch changed shape. biopsy neg
Sep 13 white patch ulcerated. Biopsy
Nov 13 diag Tongue SCC T2N2BM0 poorly Differ.
Dec 13 Hemigloss. neck dissect.Trach.Caldwell Luc (suspect cysts inside face, neg), teeth out. forearm flap, abdo graft
Feb 14 PEG tube
Feb/Mar 14. 30 x radio 60gy Grade 3 Mucositis, burns, hair loss, very ill. Nerve damage ear neck shoulder
Jun 14 *now* PEG out. Have lost 98 lbs in 1 yr. Anorexia. Dysphagia, liquids only. Dysphasia. Fatigue.
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8 years ago when I was searching for web sites to help me thru this Tx and recovery I went to 2 before this site and both sites were worthless. It wasn't until Brian found me on another site and invited me over here that I got lucky.

You can'tunderstand some people PERIOD!!


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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No worries, Estelle. We can't explain the behaviors of others. My take on that is that you weren't meant to be there. Keep searching for those who can love you and help you. They're everywhere.

Everything we face in life is as large as it is in OUR world and don't ever think you have to minimize your personal circumstances because someone else wants to beat their chest and brag they did more. It's not a competition and no medals will be awarded at the end.

The "right" people will appear just when you need them. Trust that, please.

Warm regards and best wishes for you.


SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0
Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation
Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03
Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08.
Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11
Cervical Myelitis 09/12
Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12
Dysautonomia 11/12
Hospice care 09/12-01/13.
COPD 01/14
Intermittent CHF 6/15
Feeding tube NPO 03/16
VFI 12/2016
ORN 12/2017
Cardiac Event 06/2018
Bilateral VFI 01/2021
Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022
Bilateral VFI 05/2022
Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
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Estelle,

I also belong to a few Facebook groups, but I do not rely on them for reliable information or support. I also found some of the folks on there to be outright mean to fellow survivors or caregivers - that is not the reason you join these groups!

I have found the OCF website and forum to be the best source of reliable information and support. Through OCF I have met other local OC survivors by attending some of the many OCF events (walks) that are held throughout the USA each year. There are face-to-face support groups in some locations, but not near where I live. I don't know what is available in England, but perhaps there are some support groups in your area. It really does help to connect with fellow survivors. In some cases you should ask your doctor, but that isn't always practical when you have a question at 3AM.

If you are looking for answers to certain questions you have, try using the search function for the forum. I've used this a lot over the years to read what other survivors have gone through.

Wishing you the best!


Susan

SCC R-Lateral tongue, T1N0M0
Age 47 at Dx, non-smoker, casual drinker, HPV-
Surgery: June 2005
RT: Feb-Apr 2006
HBOT: 45 in 2008; 30 in 2013; 30 in 2022 -> Total 105!
Recurrence/Surgeries: Jan & Apr 2010
Biopsy 2/2011: Moderate dysplasia
Surgery 4/2011: Mild dysplasia
Dental issues: 2013-2022 (ORN)
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Estelle Offline OP
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Thank you my dear ones for your compassion.


Mar 99 white patch tongue
Dec 11 white patch changed shape. biopsy neg
Sep 13 white patch ulcerated. Biopsy
Nov 13 diag Tongue SCC T2N2BM0 poorly Differ.
Dec 13 Hemigloss. neck dissect.Trach.Caldwell Luc (suspect cysts inside face, neg), teeth out. forearm flap, abdo graft
Feb 14 PEG tube
Feb/Mar 14. 30 x radio 60gy Grade 3 Mucositis, burns, hair loss, very ill. Nerve damage ear neck shoulder
Jun 14 *now* PEG out. Have lost 98 lbs in 1 yr. Anorexia. Dysphagia, liquids only. Dysphasia. Fatigue.
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This is the best site because it has an excellent philosophy. Even people who do not have cancer but fear it are welcomed with open arms by people who have been very sick. We all understand fear and worry and the frustration of not getting the answers you need from doctors at times. I always understand your posts because you speak from the heart:)


1996, ovarian cancer surgery + cisplatin and taxol.
September, 2007, SCC of left lateral tongue. Excision.
October, 2009 recurrence in scar tissue, T1NOMO. Free flap surgery from left wrist - neck dissection. 63 year old New Zealander. No chemo, no RT.
February, 2014. New primary in left buccal mucosa. Marginal mandibulectomy, neck dissection, right arm free forearm flap. T1N0M0 but third occurrence and some areas of concern: RT started 8 April and finished 19 May.
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Estelle Offline OP
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Thank you for your kind and compassionate replies. It has helped more than you know. Cancer breaks your heart as well as your body. Need to heal.


Mar 99 white patch tongue
Dec 11 white patch changed shape. biopsy neg
Sep 13 white patch ulcerated. Biopsy
Nov 13 diag Tongue SCC T2N2BM0 poorly Differ.
Dec 13 Hemigloss. neck dissect.Trach.Caldwell Luc (suspect cysts inside face, neg), teeth out. forearm flap, abdo graft
Feb 14 PEG tube
Feb/Mar 14. 30 x radio 60gy Grade 3 Mucositis, burns, hair loss, very ill. Nerve damage ear neck shoulder
Jun 14 *now* PEG out. Have lost 98 lbs in 1 yr. Anorexia. Dysphagia, liquids only. Dysphasia. Fatigue.
Joined: Nov 2006
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Yes, Estelle - you need to heal - your body and your emotions and be gentle with yourself. This is the best place to be for healing and understanding and information from others who have been where you are.


Anne-Marie
CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)



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Estelle - I have been told by people in the know that one reason this forum family is successful is because we are a "moderated" forum, ie we have moderators and administrators who read literally every post written on the forum. Misbehavior by members either gets deleted entirely or fixed in other ways. We simply don't allow misbehavior.

Other forums, maybe like the ones you mentioned above are not well moderated (if at all) and sadly turn into a free fire zone that hurts people feelings and reduces the forum's effectiveness.

Sorry you had to endure that, stick with us. You will get what you need.

Tony



Tony, 69, non-smoker, aerobatics pilot, bridge player/teacher, avid dancer (ballroom, latin, swing, country)

09/13 SCC, HPV 16, tonsillectomy, T2N0.
11/13 start rads, no chemo
12/13 taste gone, dry mouth,
02/14 hair slowly returning
05/14 taste the same, dry sinuses, irrigation helps.
01/15 food taste about 60% returned, dry sinuses are worse in winter.
12/20 no more sinus problems, taste pretty good

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This is a forum unlike any other. Just what goes on behind the scenes by all those concerned with the technology and the smooth operation of this website is awesome to consider. So many individuals are are involved and concerned with the safety of those who come here for accurate information and true, compassionate help. On the social media sites, although there are some positives, you can never be sure about the accuracy of any comments or advice given by unknown agencies or individuals. Years ago, when the internet was fairly new I saw a cartoon showing a smiling dog sitting at a computer, with the caption: "When you're on the internet, nobody knows you're a dog". This is true. Those who make hurtful comments are stupid and not worth your time. So, Estelle - stick with us. We always "play nice".


Anne-Marie
CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)



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