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Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 86 | My brother is on the closterphobic side and he's worried about the nastrogastic feeding tube and his mouth is gonna be traumatized from the surgery, hence he needs a trach to breathe easier. Does anyone know if you can get all the proper nutrients and calories through his IV so he can avoid the feeding tube. He doesn't want both his nostrils and mouth being blocked off and would be more comfortable being fed through his IV for 5-7 days. Thank you
22 YO Brother Dx 6/17/14 w. SCC R Lateral tongue
CT scan clear LN 6/20/14
HPV-, non-smoker
R tongue, right hemiglossectomy Surgery 6/24/14
(Not reoccurrence but went to NCCC instead
R neck dissection, tracheostomy, radial free flap, R tongue dissection surg 8/11/14
PT1N2B.3 positive lymph nodes out of 13
Extranodal extension present
9-15-14 IMRT (35x) & Cisplatin (2x) begun
10-21-14 peg in. 10-31-14 1 round of carboplatin
11-4-14 IMRT rx comp
3-27-15 Recurrent tumor in lymph node, L neck diss.
10-29-15 brother passed away, 23 yrs old
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Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | For short periods of time an IV might be used. Check with the doc and let them know what your brothers concerns are. From what Ive heard, the NG tube is no big deal, its easily removed and will not interfere with breathing. Who knows, he may not need the NG tube at all. I would doubt a regular PEG tube would be mentioned for only a weeks worth of usage.
ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive  | | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts)
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | I had the nasal tube for 2 weeks and there is no pain or discomfort and it was easy to use.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 86 | [quote=ChristineB]For short periods of time an IV might be used. Check with the doc and let them know what your brothers concerns are. From what Ive heard, the NG tube is no big deal, its easily removed and will not interfere with breathing. Who knows, he may not need the NG tube at all. I would doubt a regular PEG tube would be mentioned for only a weeks worth of usage. [/quote]
Thanks for the response, his aspect is the less tubes attached to his body the better he will feel. He was told that with the feeding tube and trach placed in his body, he will feel like he isn't breathing and may go Into a panic mode. So hopefully we can get him nutrients through the IV, I keep telling him
even though it doesn't feel like you're breathing, you will be breathing perfectly fine!!
22 YO Brother Dx 6/17/14 w. SCC R Lateral tongue
CT scan clear LN 6/20/14
HPV-, non-smoker
R tongue, right hemiglossectomy Surgery 6/24/14
(Not reoccurrence but went to NCCC instead
R neck dissection, tracheostomy, radial free flap, R tongue dissection surg 8/11/14
PT1N2B.3 positive lymph nodes out of 13
Extranodal extension present
9-15-14 IMRT (35x) & Cisplatin (2x) begun
10-21-14 peg in. 10-31-14 1 round of carboplatin
11-4-14 IMRT rx comp
3-27-15 Recurrent tumor in lymph node, L neck diss.
10-29-15 brother passed away, 23 yrs old
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Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | I can only speak to the nasal tube but it NEVER interfered with my breathing. After a day with it I really didn't feel it's presence near as much as I thought I would.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 86 | Hi everyone,
Thank you all for your help. The current update is my brother will be doing his surgery on 8/11/14 at karmanos cancer center. My brother might even be cancer free right now but the doctor wants better margins. The doctor says he wants to take precautjons so the cancer will not reoccur. Two doctors will be doing the surgery one will cut the cancer out and the other will do the construction part. He will be getting a modified neck dissection, a skin graft from his thigh and forearm to reform his tongue as a free flap. He will be in ICU for two days. He will be jn the hospital for 10 days. He will have a feeding tube, IV and trach. Does any one have any suggestions? Please wish us luck on all of this.
22 YO Brother Dx 6/17/14 w. SCC R Lateral tongue
CT scan clear LN 6/20/14
HPV-, non-smoker
R tongue, right hemiglossectomy Surgery 6/24/14
(Not reoccurrence but went to NCCC instead
R neck dissection, tracheostomy, radial free flap, R tongue dissection surg 8/11/14
PT1N2B.3 positive lymph nodes out of 13
Extranodal extension present
9-15-14 IMRT (35x) & Cisplatin (2x) begun
10-21-14 peg in. 10-31-14 1 round of carboplatin
11-4-14 IMRT rx comp
3-27-15 Recurrent tumor in lymph node, L neck diss.
10-29-15 brother passed away, 23 yrs old
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Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,260 Likes: 3 | Something to write with talking will not happen for a few days...  hugs and best of luck
Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,671 | A laptop or iPad in the hospital for when his mouth is too sore for talking. My son used his laptop and typed in big letters so those around him could see what he was saying. A dry erase board is good, too - so your brother can express his wants or thoughts. Very best wishes going out to you and your brother for everything to go just the way it is supposed to on the 11th. Keep us updated.
Anne-Marie
CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)
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Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Make sure you understand I'm not a doctor but IMO I would get another opinion before this surgery.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 42 | [quote=ak123]Hey everyone,
So literally he was just picked randomly! Was anyone here picked randomly? [/quote]
There are other causes for oral cancer such as environmental factors and secondhand smoke. I think the doctor more meant that they aren't sure of the actual cause. I don't really know if I like the phrasing they chose as it sounds like getting cancer is a lottery.
Glad to hear the good news about the lymph nodes!!
Female, Age 38, healthy non-smoker, rarely drank, regularly workout
May 2014 noticed irritation on tongue
6/18 saw doctor
6/25 saw ENT specialist got biopsy
6/30 Dx HPV P16+ ve SCC tongue cancer
7/9 CT scans, no visible spread
8/20 partial glossectomy with radial forearm flap, neck dissection 26 nodes sampled - results T2 N0 with mild dysplasia
4/2015 start to have ear pain
5/2015 recurrence
6/4/2015 surgery 29 nodes samples pN 2c
7/13/2015 7 wks of Chemo & Radiation start
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