| Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 | So apparently you can get an attack of gout in the knee! I have it in my left foot as a result of treatment. The first attack hit me the week I got home after treatment. I woke up Wednesday with a little ache in my knee. By Thursday night I was in agony and could barely walk! My partner suggested it could be gout. I told her I never heard of it in the knee. Anyway, I took the meds my MO gave me and by Friday AM it had eased a smidge. I consulted Dr. Google and sure enough, it can manifest itself in the knee. The knee looked a bit swollen and red too.
Not much I can do other than take the meds, ice it down and ride it out. It's screaming this morning and causes pain of another dimension! Just needed to vent is all.... Ugghhh...
"T"
57 Cardiac bypass 11/07 Cardiac stents 10/2012 Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+ Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12 Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13 Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13 3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo Finished Tx 4/24/13 NED Since
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 | Sorry to hear T. I think it can go to any joint. A friend of mine had it effect his hips, after years of uncontrolled gout in the feet, and needed hip replacements. There are foods that may trigger, but I'm no expert on the subject, and some other possible remedies like turmeric, pure cranberry, blackcherry juice. I guess to get rid of the uric acid.
Feel better.
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| | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | Sounds horrible Mr. T. What's the link to treatment? We've had a lot of gout in our family but nothing for me...yet! Hope it gets under control soon.
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
| | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 | Thanks for the replies. I know diet is a contributing factor and I do eat some of those foods but on a very limited basis. You would think that I would get a flare up immediately or within days of consuming them but that's not the case. Since the end of treatment in April, I've had three flare ups in my left foot/big toe area (classic spot). This is the first time in my knee. There seems to be no rhyme or reason as they come up out of the blue.
There are plenty of links for treatment. I don't have any specific one. I just did a quick Google on gout and knee and saw that it's actually not that unusual. Joy joy eh?
I'm taking Indomethacin 50mg 3x daily. It's an anti-inflammatory typically prescribed for gout symptoms. My MO prescribed it. It usually takes about thee days or so before it really kicks in. The flare ups I had usually resolve in about a week or so.
"T"
57 Cardiac bypass 11/07 Cardiac stents 10/2012 Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+ Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12 Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13 Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13 3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo Finished Tx 4/24/13 NED Since
| | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 1 | Chemo is a factor, and may very well be the culprit, and caused my kidney stones, so the doctors say. The may be some correlation with gout, kidney stones too, not sure. My stones was back pain symptom, I contributed to weight lifting, but after a blood test, my creatine was sky high.
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | Uric acid buildup as well as calcium is pretty common during cancer and treatment. The kidneys have to clear those, too, and we know what chemo does to those little organs. There are so many things that really taste good that cause uric acid buildup. I remember back in the 60's when gout was called the "rich man" disease because it was believed it was caused by rich foods.
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
| | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,291 Likes: 1 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,291 Likes: 1 | Very sorry to hear about yet another side effect. Think of them like side dishes piled on the plate at the hofbrau. Just deal with them one at a time. Hang in there and Merry Xmas, Don
Don Male, 57 - Great health except C Dec '12 DX: BOT SCC T2N2bMx, Stage 4a, HPV+, multiple nodes 1 tooth out Jan '13 2nd tooth out Tumor Board -induction TPF (3 cycles), seq CRT 4-6/2013 CRT 70gr 2x35, weekly carbo150 ended 5/29,6/4 All the details, join at http://beatdown.cognacom.com | | | | Joined: May 2013 Posts: 134 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: May 2013 Posts: 134 | Gout sufferer here. Chug an entire bottle of black cherry juice.
Dx March 2011 via FNA (49 yrs old) SCC BoT HPV+ exact strain unknown Stage IVa T3N2cM0 Cisplatin x 3, IMRT x 40 (7267 cGy) One node removed post-treatment (rad dmg) Clean PET 10/28/11 Swallow therapy | | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 | Thanks Chris!
I have to head out in a few to pick up the little lady from work. I'll stop on the way home and get me some....limping all the way! I'm a few days into this flare up and I'm one hurtin' pup!
"T"
57 Cardiac bypass 11/07 Cardiac stents 10/2012 Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+ Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12 Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13 Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13 3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo Finished Tx 4/24/13 NED Since
| | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 421 Likes: 1 | ~Whew~... finally it's eased up. Between the meds and the juice I guess it did the trick.
That's a nice Christmas present for sure!
"T"
57 Cardiac bypass 11/07 Cardiac stents 10/2012 Dx'd 11/30/2012 Tx N2b MO Stage IV HPV+ Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12 Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13 Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13 3/13/2013 30rads/6chemo Finished Tx 4/24/13 NED Since
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