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Thank you both for your input. I do disagree with the designation of pseudoscience for the non current medical yada, yada, yada. It is like the USA saying marijuana is not medically proven just because our country refused to research it and totally through out the 5000 years of use from other cultures. I have benefited from acupuncture for various issues in the past, and while it may not be proven to directly improve our cancer, it certainly would/could help with the other aspects of our lives that are both affected by our cancer and affect our cancer. This is my personal belief and in no way do I intend to disrespect your opinion.


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After re-reading that portion of doctor's quote I posted
[quote]pure pseudoscience (naturopathy, acupuncture, homeopathy)[/quote] , I heartily agree with you that acupuncture should not have been lumped in with naturopathy or homeopathy. Of course your on point analogy to marijuana rings very true for acupuncture. Plus my prosthodontist who is all science with zero tolerance for humbug like homeopathy has had many patients whom he has referred to acupuncture in order to help with dry mouth after cancer. He said it's about 50% success rate.
Thanks for calling my attention to that, I was just taking one section out of a long article on CCAs and should have caught that "error". Acupuncture has thousands of years of proof documented back as early at 2BC while homeopathy was ginned up at the dawn of the 19th century (1796)in Germany and naturopathy made up at the dawn of the 20th century (1895)
Of course, these are indeed my personal opinions and beliefs. I only object when OCF posters decided to forego radiation or chemo or surgery for "non medical" TX. My understanding is that the most honest and caring practitioners of both naturopathy and homeopathy refuse to treat cancer patients unless they are also getting real medical TX also. I know my chiropractor was quite adamant that anybody who told me not to get radiation or chemo but rely upon their "medicine" was a complete fraud and dangerous.
Thanks for your courteous correction
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I'm trying to do my part in helping the USA research the medicinal purposes of marijuana. I'm so committed to it that I've been doing an independant study on it for about a year...I'm going to try and publish the results as soon as I stop eating everything in sight and can stop laughing long enough to type it up smile


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CTCA has been the subject of federal investigations and fines

ALL cancer patients should read this in it's entirety: http://www.quackwatch.com/00AboutQuackwatch/altseek.html

and about CTCA specifically: http://www.quackwatch.com/02ConsumerProtection/FTCActions/ctca.html


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Eric,

Your comment made me laugh out loud!! Thanks!


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Made me laugh, too, Eric! When you publish your research, I can say "I knew you when"! laugh


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I am glad you didn't take it personally as that was not my intention. I do believe in modern medicine, but also believe in ancient methods. We would not be here if our ancestors did not have healing skills. But with modern advances, many of which have given us our new diseases, etc., modern medicine is necessary, and older techniques can be of great benefit to us in other ways.

Oh, and I am loving this site and all the responses/advice/opinions being expressed here.


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Gary, I have completely removed CTCA from my list of possibilities. Too bad that so many might end up in dire straights from them.


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Eric, All laughing aside, I have been doing my part for more years than I will admit to. I saw first hand in 1995 the positive effects MMJ has on individuals. My partner got Kaposi's Sarcoma, AIDS related cancer, did the chemo thing and could not get out of bed without a joint and a half. It is a miracle plant.

But, yes, I do enjoy the "side effects" of the plant too. Thankfully we just passed MMJ here in Arizona, so soon I will not have to live as a criminal to do what is helpful for me!!!!!


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I'm not so sure I agree with the "ancient" methods our ancestors used. Operations without anesthesia, sawing peoples legs off (without much more than a bite block), etc. There's a reason why the life spans are so long now (and getting longer) and it has very little to do with ancient medicine. Even when the Social Security Act was passed they didn't really expect many people to live long enough to collect it. So even in our lifetime we have seen quantum leaps in lifespan improvement, at least in developed countries.

In the late 1800's people routinely died from radiation therapy because they were clueless on shielding, exposure rates, beam collimation, etc. Even Western medicine has had a steep learning curve.

The so-called "ancients" lived a long life if they made it to 40.

Eric, surely you will (ahem) share some of your research with us ;-)

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