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#123012 10-12-2010 05:21 PM
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Just introducing myself. Dave - 29yo.

Only last week found out my cancer had returned. Going through a rough patch right now. I got married June 09 after recovering from the first cancer. Greatest day of my life. Thought i was past it but as we all know, its a sneaky bugger and it snuck back up on me.

I previously had a stage 1-2 SCC on the left BOT. I was diagnosed on the 7/4/08. Surgery on the 7/20/08 and PEG in place for a couple of weeks with a piece of my forearm used to replace. (Forearm radial is it? Can't quite remember)

Went through radiation but no chemo.

Nearly two years to the day i finished radiation i noticed a lump on my tongue that has since been revealed as a stage 1-2 SCC. Possibly a different one as this one is well differentialed and the last one was poorly.

Right now I am waiting for surgery which will occur on monday. Same process as before.

I really wanted to post to say thankyou to the absolutely inspirational people on this forum that have lifted my spirits. I am the only person i know who has gone through this type of cancer and surgery and to find others is fantastic. I will endeavour to post here as often as i can. Surgery will probably remove most of what's left of my tongue but i figure its a very very small price to pay.

I'll update my sig once i figure out the abbreviations etc. smile

Cheers and thanks for reading,
Dave

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We will be praying for successful surgery and a speedy recovery. Will you have to have Chemo this time?


Sharon, 57; Hard Palate; T1, High Grade, DX 6-12-09, Surgery, maxillectomy 7-14-09, 33 RT (9-2-09 to 10-19-09); Prothesis (obturator). None smoker, non drinker.
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Dave,
Just read your post and want you to know I will say a prayer for you and hope everything turns out okay. By reading the other posts on this forum, you know you are not alone. Cancer sucks, especially oral cancer, where it leaves it's ugly mark on us to the point of not even being able to eat and some not even being able to talk. Please keep in touch with us. I pray that your surgery and treatment will be a success.
julieann


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Nov 2007 SCC on right tonsil following tonsillectomy. Was smoker, QUIT. (Stage IV T2 N2b) 7 weeks radiation one day/wk chemo (carboplatin and 5-FU). Allergic to Taxol; PEG in, lost 30 lbs. TX completed January 2008. PEG out mid- 2008. PET/CT 1/17/2011;2/3/12 NEGATIVE for cancer smile
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Dave, welcome to OCF. You will find several Australian members. Wishing you the very best of luck with your upcoming surgery.


Christine
SCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44
2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07
-65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr
Clear PET 1/08
4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I
surg 4/16/08 clr marg
215 HBO dives
3/09 teeth out, trismus
7/2/09 recur, Stg IV
8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy
3wks medicly inducd coma
2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit
PICC line IV antibx 8 mo
10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg
OC 3x in 3 years
very happy to be alive smile
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Hi and welcome from a fellow Aussie Dave,
As Christine says there a quite a few of us here. Is your hospital in Brisbane?
I am so sorry to hear that you are going through this for the 2nd time. As you can see by my signature I had much the same as your first operation.
The very best of luck with the upcoming surgery on Monday.
I searched on abbreviations and found a list that Mark a Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) had posted a while ago.
It is a very comprehensive list.
Please post again if you have questions before surgery and after.
Cheers
Gabriele

Abbreviations and definitions for common terms.

We all use abbreviations here and new-comers sometimes have a hard time understanding them.
SCC - Squamous Cell Carcinoma
Dx - Diagnosis
Rx - Prescription
Tx - Therapy? Treatment?
BOT - Base of tongue
PEG - Percutaneous Endoscopic Gastrostomy aka feeding tube

http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/dental/tube_feeding.htm

HPV - Human papillomavirus
rad - radiation
ENT - Ear, nose, throat Doctor aka Otolaryngologist
Glossectomy - Removal of tongue
Metastasis - Spreading of the cancer
XRT - Conventional external beam radiation therapy aka EBT
IMRT - Intensity modulated radiation therapy

http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/facts/imrt_radiation.htm

PET - Positron emission tomography scan
CT/CAT - Co-axial tomography scan
EBT - External beam radiation therapy aka XRT
OCF - Oral Cancer Foundation
NCI - National Cancer Institute, a sub division of the National Institutes of Health
CCC - Comprehensive cancer center or clinic; A tumor board at a cancer center will include doctors trained in different disciplines. Having your case presented and evaluated by this type of multidisciplinary team will give you the best options for treatment, considering all possibilities from their different areas of expertise.


HBO - Hyper-baric oxygen Patient given oxygen under pressure prior to dental surgery.
Stage - Development of the cancer

http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/facts/stages_cancer.htm

TNM - System for describing the cancer

http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/facts/stages_cancer.htm

NCCN - National Comprehensive Cancer Network (an alliance of 20 leading comprehensive cancer centers).

http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/treatment/pdf/head-and-neck.pdf

Margins - Refers to the margins of biopsied tissue; clean margins indicate that all the visible cancerous cells were removed.
Biopsy - Removal of sample or whole of suspect tissue

http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/facts/detailed_biopsy.htm

Xerostomia - Dry mouth resulting from reduced or absent saliva flow
RO - Radiological oncologist
MO - Medical oncologist
DO - Dental oncologist



History Leukoplakia bx 8/2006 SCC floor mouth T3N0M0- Verrucous Carcinoma.
14 hour 0p SCC-Right ND/excision/marginal mandibulectomy 9/2006, 4 teeth removed, flap from wrist, trach-ng 6 days- no chemo/rad.
6 ops and debulking (flap/tongue join) + bx's 2006-2012.
bx Jan 2012 Hyperkeratosis-Epithelial Dysplasia
24cm GIST tumour removed 8/2013. Indefinite Oral Chemo.

1/31/16 passed away peacefully surrounded by family

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[quote=wheels]We will be praying for successful surgery and a speedy recovery. Will you have to have Chemo this time? [/quote]

Sharon, my doctors say that chemo is often done in conjunction with radiation. I have radiation before and apparently its rare for it to occur for a second time in the same area on the body. They're going to have a look at the tumour once removed and make a decision around then.

At least it hasn't spread. Docs are saying they're pretty sure it hasn't gone to the lymph nodes but they are going to remove them and check anyway. Pretty much like last time

To Gabe, yes, I'm in Brisbane Private hospital. I'm fortunate to have my wife and all my family in Brisbane.

Thanks again for reading,

Last edited by David P; 10-12-2010 10:19 PM.
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Hi David

Alex and I are in Sydney and wish you the best of luck for your upcoming surgery. This is a great site for exploring options and figuring out the questions BEFORE you get in front of the doctor rather than 3am the next morning. Support is excellent too from both survivors and co-survivors.

Alex had slightly left of standard treatment because his tumours were unresectable. We had "induction" chemotherapy which just means they used chemo as a means of shrinking the tumour before they rolled out the big guns. Chemoradiation (the big guns) followed 4 weeks later. We were lucky that the result of the chemo was actually a "complete response" (no evidence of tumour on PET scan) so with any luck, the chemoradiation pulverised any errant microscopic remnants. We look forward to stressing about whether or not our superannuation will save us from selling the house and moving into the gutter with our other poorly prepared friends smile

Karen


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Love of Life to Alex T4N2M0 SCC Tonsil, BOT, R lymph nodes
Dx March 2010 51yrs. Unresectable. HPV+ve
Tx Chemo x 3+1 cycles(cisplatin,docetaxel,5FU)- complete May 31
Chemoradiation (IMRTx35 + weekly cisplatin)
Finish Aug 27
Return to work 2 years on
3 years out Aug 27 2013 NED smile
Still underweight
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Dave,

You say the 1st time it was BOT primary but you said you had surgery. What surgery was done for BOT primary?

If they are not sure about a nodal involvement why are they going to do a ND? Did they radiate that area the 1st time?

Were your slides ever tested for HPV?


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Chemo alone is not a cure for this type of cancer. You are correct in knowing it is given with radiation. There are a couple people here who have gone thru radiation twice.

Gabe...Excellent post!!!!! You really got a ton of important info compiled into one post.


Christine
SCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44
2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07
-65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr
Clear PET 1/08
4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I
surg 4/16/08 clr marg
215 HBO dives
3/09 teeth out, trismus
7/2/09 recur, Stg IV
8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy
3wks medicly inducd coma
2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit
PICC line IV antibx 8 mo
10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg
OC 3x in 3 years
very happy to be alive smile
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Dave, my thoughts are with you. Sounds as if you have a good team in place, both medically and personally.

We're all pulling for you!

David 2


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SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 14 years all clear in 6/23 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
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