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finally joined after peeking in over last few months. oct 31st 08 i gave up smoking after 23 yrs , nov 30 a biopsy was taken and dec 12th given the news i had oral cancer and would need major surgery. surgery happened january 12th , thankfully without any complications . owing to severe under jaw odema swelling my radiation therapy was postponed 3 weeks and was discharged from ward after 31 days . i'm struggling with the thought of trying to swallow again and barely manage a few sips of coffee a week , even then i think i spit most of it back out as i have excess saliva now. also have the hacking up of mucusy blobs most days, sometimes 1 or 2 a day and sometimes very easy and other times eye wateringly hard to do


45 yrs. peg tube jan 07/09 TOTAL GLOSSECTOMY jan 12/09
T3NOscc oral(ex smoker )
open tracheostomy , removed oct 12/09
modified neck dissection lymph nodes I to IV
rectus abdominal flap + full dental removal
30 day radiation treatment ,diagnosed with lung cancer oct 2011
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So glad you are here. You're in the right place for lots of support and practical help! It's been a while since my son was recovering from his radiation treatment, and he did have lots of saliva problems but it was manageable, though and got better slowly depending on how far he was from end of treatment. I'm sure you will hear from others with more direct and recent experience and suggestions. Until you do, have you tried doing a search in the little search box upper right of this page? Just type in "saliva" and it will take you to a thread with lots of helpful comments.


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CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)



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Hello Ross and welcome. It's a tough road you have started down and your body will go through many changes before it's done. Radiation will probably end up drying up that saliva and then your mouth will be dry all the time. Swinging from one extreme to the other is the name of this game. You may need to see a speech therapist at the end of tx to relearn how to swallow. I didn't even have surgery but still and even with the peg tube I lost 50 pounds (not sure what that is in grams) over the course of tx and recovery. Wish you luck and strength to fight this battle.


David R. 65 yr old male non-smoker, light drinker, stage 3 or 4, depending on which doc you ask, scc rt. tonsil, 2 nodes, 7 weeks radiation and chemo. No surgery. Teatment ended 3/20/08. PET scan 8/08 showed no cancer.
And now, as of oct, 2010, caregiver to wife, Linda, with breast cancer.
May, 2013, Linda diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer. Enuf already.
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i have had sessions with speech therapist but they arent forcing me to do anything past what i'm comfortable with, thats why i figured getting on here i can find out others experiences. i'm just about back to pre surgery weight taking 9 bottles of multifibre fortisip per day and 90ml of calogen as a calorie booster. i can talk reasonably well all things considered but living alone and not many vistors dont need to much, when i do i get frothy saliva from it and often brings on the mucus hacking . my surgeon says what i have saliva wise is what i will be stuck with being 15 months down the track after radiation he doesnt expect any change to it now.


45 yrs. peg tube jan 07/09 TOTAL GLOSSECTOMY jan 12/09
T3NOscc oral(ex smoker )
open tracheostomy , removed oct 12/09
modified neck dissection lymph nodes I to IV
rectus abdominal flap + full dental removal
30 day radiation treatment ,diagnosed with lung cancer oct 2011
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Just wanted to say hello. I'm from NZ too - had treatment in Auckland but no rads or chemo for my tongue cancer. My speech therapist tells me that some people find a sip of a fizzy drink helpful when their speech is hindered by saliva. Doesn't seem to work for me but I take water wherever I go because - even though I have too much saliva - the water thins it down.


1996, ovarian cancer surgery + cisplatin and taxol.
September, 2007, SCC of left lateral tongue. Excision.
October, 2009 recurrence in scar tissue, T1NOMO. Free flap surgery from left wrist - neck dissection. 63 year old New Zealander. No chemo, no RT.
February, 2014. New primary in left buccal mucosa. Marginal mandibulectomy, neck dissection, right arm free forearm flap. T1N0M0 but third occurrence and some areas of concern: RT started 8 April and finished 19 May.
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its more of an issue if i'm in consult room or therapy and i have to talk more in 5 mins than i usually do in a day. lol


45 yrs. peg tube jan 07/09 TOTAL GLOSSECTOMY jan 12/09
T3NOscc oral(ex smoker )
open tracheostomy , removed oct 12/09
modified neck dissection lymph nodes I to IV
rectus abdominal flap + full dental removal
30 day radiation treatment ,diagnosed with lung cancer oct 2011
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Hi Ross, welcome to OCF. Congrats on finishing the brutal treatments and being a survivor. There are many different after effects people can run into after finishing treatment. Ive heard of people on here who have experienced improvements around their 2 year point so dont give up just yet. There is alos some meds around that can help with producing salivia. Sorry I took one for less than a week as it had its own set of side effects (excessive sweating).

I also have the mucous blobs that you describe. I havent heard too much from others about that. Sometimes its daily but occassionally I can skip a day or 2 without having one of them caught in my throat. They can be awful to get out. I have found that when I have one stuck, I drink either very warm or ice cold drinks and that helps tremendously.

Always glad to see new members who are survivors. Glad you made yourself a part of OCF smile


Christine
SCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44
2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07
-65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr
Clear PET 1/08
4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I
surg 4/16/08 clr marg
215 HBO dives
3/09 teeth out, trismus
7/2/09 recur, Stg IV
8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy
3wks medicly inducd coma
2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit
PICC line IV antibx 8 mo
10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg
OC 3x in 3 years
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thanks, yes my dr keeps reminding me at my 3mth check ups that some things take time . i look forward to the odema under my jaw finally vanishing, they nicked a nerve in surgery so have a crooked smile for now but once the odema has settled for good dr will look at corrective fix on that if it really bothers me. could just be coincedence but i was on antibiotics course for 2 weeks up to monday as i'd had a boil in my armpit that had to be lanced and havent had to much problem hacking them up since . anyway the threads are already proving a mine of information for me . ross


45 yrs. peg tube jan 07/09 TOTAL GLOSSECTOMY jan 12/09
T3NOscc oral(ex smoker )
open tracheostomy , removed oct 12/09
modified neck dissection lymph nodes I to IV
rectus abdominal flap + full dental removal
30 day radiation treatment ,diagnosed with lung cancer oct 2011

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