| Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 31 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 31 | It's been two months after treatment. Jim is getting stronger; he tilled the garden and planted eight tomato plants a couple of days ago! He has been having some fairly good days. HOWEVER, this morning he was in terrible pain and sick just like it he was two WEEKS after treatment. It is so discouraging because he thinks things are leveling off and he's on the road to recovery, then he'll have a bad day like this. It is so unpredictable! So I was wondering if you experienced these bad days every once in a while during recovery? And if so, do you know what causes them?
Thanks, Debbie
Debbie, 53 wife and caregiver to Jim, 68, non-smoker, social drinks only. Stage IV SCC rt. tonsil. HPV+. Neck dissection 12/29/09. Peg inserted 2/2/10. Cisplatin and rad started 2/9/10. Carboplatin given 2nd round. 3rd round cancelled due to toxicity. Finished 30 rad treatments 3/23/10.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 618 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 618 | Deb,
At Jim's stage I was still happy to have a good day when I could get one. It's still early in the healing process so I would not be discouraged when a bad day hits.
They will become less and less frequent as he moves on out from the hard hits his body just took. As much as we would like to rush it and get a normal life back, it just takes time.
I can say that somewhere about 4-5 months out I was feeling much more alive and feeling good about being active. I'm 7 months out now and I do have many annoyances from my treatment but small stuff relative to how I felt at two months.
I don't think this is ever over, but it should start getting easier to deal with soon.
Kelly Male 48, SCC (Soft Palet) Rt., Stage 1, T3n0m0, Dx, 8-09, Start IMRT 35 9-2-09 end 10-21-09 04-20-10 NED 8-11 recurrence, node rt. neck N2b 10-11 33 IMRT w/chemo wkly 3-12-12 PET - residual cancer 4-12 5 treatments with Cyberknife & Erbitux 6-19-12 Pet scan CLEAR 12-3-12 PET - CLEAR
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Deb,
It's common to have goods days followed by a bad day or so and so on. I know I did but eventually all the bad days will give way to all good days (relatively speaking) so tell him it's just normal.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 31 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 31 | Thank you so much guys. It's always nice to know when these side effects are normal.
Have a good evening,
Deb
Debbie, 53 wife and caregiver to Jim, 68, non-smoker, social drinks only. Stage IV SCC rt. tonsil. HPV+. Neck dissection 12/29/09. Peg inserted 2/2/10. Cisplatin and rad started 2/9/10. Carboplatin given 2nd round. 3rd round cancelled due to toxicity. Finished 30 rad treatments 3/23/10.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,406 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,406 | Deb.... what they said.
I actually don't remember ANY good days for at least 3 months post-TX. So Jim is ahead of the game!
Hang in there, the worst is over!
D2
David 2 SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 14 years all clear in 6/23 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
| | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 618 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 618 | Hey David,
I had to chirp in and say that every day I did not have to have my head bolted to a table and blasted with x-rays was a good day, even if I spent most of it asleep, which I did for a good number of days after treatment.
As bad as I felt I could always find the good side. Actually that would be the left side, which is the side I had to lay on to see the TV from my couch LOL
Kelly Male 48, SCC (Soft Palet) Rt., Stage 1, T3n0m0, Dx, 8-09, Start IMRT 35 9-2-09 end 10-21-09 04-20-10 NED 8-11 recurrence, node rt. neck N2b 10-11 33 IMRT w/chemo wkly 3-12-12 PET - residual cancer 4-12 5 treatments with Cyberknife & Erbitux 6-19-12 Pet scan CLEAR 12-3-12 PET - CLEAR
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Remember I said good days (relatively speaking)!!
A good day for me was being able to take a shower without feeling that I had just completed a marathon; that I wasn't tossing my cookies every hour; that I was able to eat anything solid and that I actually believed that the worse was finally over! Remember after being run over by a bus we must take baby steps on our path to recovery.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,412 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,412 | Deb, I am kind of like your Jim. I have a few good days and then Wham and few bad days. Most of my bad days conssit of shear exhaustion and nausea. I try to remember what I did the previous days so I know if I did too much. Like the other day I was feeling really well and mowed the lawn. Well, the next day I paid for it. I was so sick I could barely get out of bed. He is not alone. I think all have that roller coaster ride.
Angelia 31 at Dx. DX: 4/30/09, 10/21/09 SCC on floor of mouth, T1NOMO, T2N1M0 TX: 39 IMRT, 8 cisplatin 11/30/09 PET/CT: 11/03/09: Lymph node involvement PEG/PORT: 11/09 TX end: 02/01/10 PET Scan: 04/05/10 clear PEG Out: 06/21/10 Biopsy: 12/23/10: fibrosis HBO: 01/04/11 - ORN Baby girl born 11-30-12
| | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 148 Likes: 1 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 148 Likes: 1 | At least when we feel drained we can blame it on former treatment...not that we are getting older!
BOT T3N2M0 No surgery, 38radiation treatments,4 chemo rounds, peg removed 11/08, still have a port. Treatments ended 6/20/08. So far, so Good ! "I know God won't give me anything I can't handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much !"
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| | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 31 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 31 | Yes and let me clarify - Jim's "good" days are those when he can get through the day without nausea, can down two servings of Carnation Inst. Brkfst, and have a decent b.m.! But, hey, we're thankful!
Debbie, 53 wife and caregiver to Jim, 68, non-smoker, social drinks only. Stage IV SCC rt. tonsil. HPV+. Neck dissection 12/29/09. Peg inserted 2/2/10. Cisplatin and rad started 2/9/10. Carboplatin given 2nd round. 3rd round cancelled due to toxicity. Finished 30 rad treatments 3/23/10.
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