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#114091 03-14-2010 12:30 PM
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I have been trying to ignore it, but I don't think I can let it go ant longer. I have been having what I think is a tooth ache, for about a week now. It is especially sensitive to hot and cold, and of course it is on the only side that I can chew on. Have others experienced increase in dental problems following radiation? Successful treatment? I have heard that dental work after radiation is not a good combination.


Sharon, 57; Hard Palate; T1, High Grade, DX 6-12-09, Surgery, maxillectomy 7-14-09, 33 RT (9-2-09 to 10-19-09); Prothesis (obturator). None smoker, non drinker.
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Hi Wheels,
Dental extractions after radiation usually require HBO treatments before and after. Normal dental work including root canals are OK. Cavities are a major problem after radiation which is why almost everyone uses fluoride trays. Get an appointment and get it checked out. Hopefully it's nothing more than a cavity.

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Radiation caused me to lose my teeth. They became very loose after radiation, so loose I couldnt chew properly. Eileen is correct with HBO being the norm for extractions. Regular dental work doesnt need that. After rad. extra attention must always be paid to your dental work.


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Sensitivity to cold is not usually as serious as to hot. Most likely the tooth will need root canal treatment and then a crown. As Eileen said, neither of these procedures will require any special precations due to having had radiation.

I hope you can get an appointment quickly.


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I am my dentists' retirement plan. I have 8 lower front teeth left and so far, 7 of them have had root canals & crowns. He finishes the crowns on two more tomorrow. That leaves on tooth bare nekked but it will be worked on soon - hopefully it can hang on until next year's dental plan allotment comes thru!

Since radiation (twice) I find my mouth takes forever to heal and all of these procedures have been very painful. It seems to take months for my gums/teeth to return to "normal" after a procedure. I eat T3's and try not to complain TOO much, as I am happy to have these 8 teeth for vanity's sake, and I am still here so I try to save my whining for the big ticket items.

My dentist isn't sure how long he can save these teeth for, but we're trying!

Donna

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I am a little more than 2.5 years post rad. My dentist made fluoride trays and prescribed Gel Kam fluoride gel that I use for about 10-20 mins every day. I also use the Prevident 5000 tooth paste for dry mouth, also prescription. I use the Biotene products as well. In spite of all this extra special care, I have had several teeth crack or chip off, and I have needed one root canal. I also have a cavity under a bridge that is just waiting for the dentist to decide what to do about it. The lack of saliva causes so many problems with tooth decay so it is very important to do all that you can to help prevent it. I suspect that I will eventually need HBO treatments for teeth that may need to be pulled in the future. Radiation side effects are the pits!


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Like Donna, I have been helping my dentist support his family. No sooner was I done my first radiation and chemo TX then I had four root canals and four crowns. I was worried that I would or should get HBO but my prothodontist specializes in Head and Neck Cancer patients and was confident I didn't need it.
See about getting flouride trays, as most of us now use them for life. I had a nice break of about a year after the recurrence with zero food in my mouth reducing the chance of decay and the sensitivity of the post surgery tissue making the flouride burn. But the extra second round of radiation prompted the prothodontist to insist I start back up on flouride trays if I wanted to keep my teeth.
Just another example of how radiation is the gift that keeps on giving.


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Thanks for all of the responses. I did get in to see my dentist today. He took an x-ray and believes that it will need a root canal. He has referred me to a specialist for further eval. The problem is that I still can not open my mouth very well and he is not sure if they will be able to do the root canal. This is the same reason that I don't have flouride trays. Has anybody had dental work when still not able to open your mouth? I still use the therabite but I don't know that I am making any progress.
Sharon


Sharon, 57; Hard Palate; T1, High Grade, DX 6-12-09, Surgery, maxillectomy 7-14-09, 33 RT (9-2-09 to 10-19-09); Prothesis (obturator). None smoker, non drinker.
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Depending on how far back the tooth is, it could still be done. Also, with the use of some nitrous oxide (laughing gas) and a special tool that can possibly open you mouth a little more and keep it open, it could be easier.

Good luck.


Jerry

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I sure enjoyed reading this post. As I too have had some minor problems. Right now I have two loose teeth,but the dentist said they were not loose enough yet to do anything with especially since i am not eating solid foods yet.


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Since radiation, I have had so many problems with my teeth. The top front six are now crowns, the bottom teeth are in really bad shape, they have shifted, I have one that should probably be pulled but my oc doctor says No. I might get something with an n, can't think of it right now and then could possibly lose my jaw....I go with whatever he says. Had a biopsy done Tuesday on a lump way back on flap/tongue, it has been rubbing that bad tooth, praying it is not c again. Thanks for listening!


Diagnosed May 2002 with Stage IV tongue cancer, two lymph nodes positive. Surgery to remove 1/2 tongue, neck dissection, 35 radiation treatments. 11/2007, diagnosed with cancer of soft palate, surgery 12/14/07, jaw split. 3/24/10, cancer on tongue behind flap, need petscan, surgery scheduled 4/16/10
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hi All! I'm 4 1/2 years out and have sent several dentists on vacations. I'm proud to say that I still have 18 teeth and have (I think) found a new dentist that really cares about said teeth. I'm not certain but I think the other one didn't expect me or my teeth to still be here after this long. He was way too willing to pull while my new guy is doing what he can to keep mine. He actually repaired the two anchor teeth under my bridge, while hanging from the ceiling (haha). His original plan was to remove the bridge which would have been unsalvagable but I talked him out of it, not wanting to go on an oatmeal diet quit yet because I can't afford a new bridge right now. Another thing, thanks to everyone here, I now have flouride trays. My new guy couldn't believe the other one didn't set me up with them. I've always used the Prevident 5000 but never had trays. After reading here about everyone else's. I asked about them. One more thing, I can't open my mouth very well either so he uses one of those blocks to hold it open. A childs size is the one that works and my mouth doesn't hurt from trying to hold it open. Although I don't post much here, I've sure learned alot from the wonderful people that do. Thank you all, Carol


DX 6/05 Rt Tonsil SSC advanced to lymph node. Stage 4b. RND, took tonsils, strips off the back of tongue, throat and nose. 19 lymph nodes removed only 1 bad. Once healed, 7 weeks of treatment including 35 IMRT, 7 Cisplatin, 7 Erbitux and 35 nasty Amophostine. Almost 11 yrs out now. Woooo Hoooo!
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