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Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 21 | Anyone have issues with your tongue turning grey post radiation? It comes and goes but is really weird looking. It gets numb then the whole front half and underside of my tongue turns really pale grey for about 5 minutes or so then turns back to the normal red. My oncologist had no idea and I have a call out with my ENT. Just wondering if anyone had experienced it?
Belinda Jo- Age 28 non-smoker, casual wine drinker, original tx 5/09, T3/N2 (now N0)/M0, 2 tongue surgeries partial glossectomy, Rad x 35 treatment began 7/8/09, no chemo, neck dissection 11/25 revealed 12 benign nodes!
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Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | http://oralcancersupport.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=92220#Post92220Turns out its a circulation issue which only happens occassionally. For me its when Im really cold it happens.
ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive  | | | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts)
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | I have to keep ,my tongue brushed to keep thrush at bay. It gets a nasty dark color and looks dark grey until I do brush, then everything that comes out while I do is a nasty color like dried blood.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 2,152 | Jim,
Maybe you need to be on a maintenance dose of Nystatin for your thrush. I use 1 Tsp daily after lunch and it seems to keep it 'at bay'. Ask about it you don't already use it.
Eileen
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Aug 1997 unknown primary, Stage III
mets to 1 lymph node in neck; rt ND, 36 XRT rad
Aug 2001 tiny tumor on larynx, Stage I total laryngectomy; left ND
June 5, 2010 dx early stage breast cancer
June 9, 2011 SCC 1.5 cm hypo pharynx, 70% P-16 positive, no mets, Stage I
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Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 21 | Thanks everyone. I talked to my ENT and he told me to take 1 baby asprin a day to help with the circulation. He will recheck me next month so hopefully that will be ok. Thanks again for the advice.
Belinda Jo- Age 28 non-smoker, casual wine drinker, original tx 5/09, T3/N2 (now N0)/M0, 2 tongue surgeries partial glossectomy, Rad x 35 treatment began 7/8/09, no chemo, neck dissection 11/25 revealed 12 benign nodes!
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Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 148 Likes: 1 | I am soooo glad that this happens to someone else !!! It happens to me all the time. I say it is like my tongue is having a seizure! My tongue turns grey, numb and I am unable to talk until "it's" over. Seems to happen after a rapid movement...like leaving a restaurant, by the time I get in the car, my tongue is grey & numb. In the course of 1 day, this happens about 4-5 times. I asked my chemo dr. he said "ask your ENT dr. Well, at least I'm not alone..even if nobody else knows what this is...I'm glad YOU do!!!
BOT T3N2M0 No surgery, 38radiation treatments,4 chemo rounds, peg removed 11/08, still have a port. Treatments ended 6/20/08. So far, so Good ! "I know God won't give me anything I can't handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much !"
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Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | I have had Nystatin and it didn't do much. Maybe it's from the implants in my tongue? Brushing seems to be what helps the most.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
--- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Dianne, I havent had an 'episode' for a long time. It just happens. I think I had it once during the whole winter. So that should be encouraging, the longer you are out of treatment the less frequent the grey/numb tongue appears.
ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 148 Likes: 1 Senior Member (100+ posts) | | Senior Member (100+ posts)
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 148 Likes: 1 | Thanks Christine & EZJim, to say the truth...as long as I have my water w/me @ ALL TIMES...I could cope with Anything!!!
BOT T3N2M0 No surgery, 38radiation treatments,4 chemo rounds, peg removed 11/08, still have a port. Treatments ended 6/20/08. So far, so Good ! "I know God won't give me anything I can't handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much !"
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Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | Water will be a part of you for a long time Dianne. I even take it to church and put it by my seat. LOL Now there are a lot that bring a bottle of it to church. Even the Pastor has one on his pulpit.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
--- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 | I had gray tongue once, but it was because the front part of my free flap had died and was decaying. Looked about the same as a dead mouse... Speaking of mice, this commercial should have been on Super Bowl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8mvXbIpzkg
Age 67 1/2
Ventral Tongue SCC T2N0M0G1 10/05
Anterior Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 6/08
Base of Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 12/08
Three partial glossectomy (10/05,11/05,6/08), PEG, 37 XRT 66.6 Gy 1/06
Neck dissection, trach, PEG & forearm free flap (6/08)
Total glossectomy, trach, PEG & thigh free flap (12/08)
On August 21, 2010 at 9:20 am, Pete went off to play with the ratties in the sky.
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Oh my Pete!!!!! You just may turn me into a rodent lover with that video. So pitiful when it lay on the trap breathing. I love almost every animanl and hate to see any suffer.
ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts)
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Pete,
When the trap slammed I wanted to kill you but that was a great commercial.
Extreme animal lover,
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | Pete, I would have killed that varmit too. LOL If my neighbors cat craps and digs in my flower one more time. He will go to heaven with that mouse. It smeels like an outhouse in front of my house. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
--- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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