| Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 2 Member | OP Member Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 2 | Hello everyone! I am new to this forum! My mom is 60 in Calif. and has Stage IV base of tongue cancer. She went to UCSF and her local cancer doctors in the Napa area. The 3 mos. of chemo/radiation never killed the cancer but it shrunk. She just had 8 weeks of Erbitux and feels like it is growing [neck stiff, feels larger]. Doc wants her to go on Carboplatin. She is not a clinical trial candidate due to secondary primary [lung cancer]. She's not interested in alternative medicine - wants to stick to standard care but it seems there's not much they can do for her but focus on palliation. Anyone else in this same boat? Mom said she is not ready to die! They say the cancer has invaded the muscle, is around the carotid, etc. but has not given her a timeline. This is aweful. Thanks everyone!
Colleen Daughter of a stage IV base of tongue cancer patient [mom in Calif], irresectable, diag. 11/09; 3 months radiation and chemo but cancer still there; had Erbitux now oncologist wants to put her on Carboplatin.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | I would get your mom to a CCC to make sure she is getting the best possible treatment advice. http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/resources/cancer_centers.htm
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Colleen I agree with David. And as to your specific question: I had carboplatin after my stage IV base of tongue cancer was not wiped out by either the radiation or Erbitux either and I was originally told my tumor was "inoperable" (in the sense they could get it out but unclear if they could put me back together). So you might ask about surgery again as they changed their mind rather than let me die. Your mom and I are contemporaries so it's not surprising she still wants to fight this. It's true that salvage surgery does really diminish quality of life, but again, check with a CCC. I ended up needing even more radiation than "maximum" even after the surgery but I am still here. I have found that the CCC tumor board does indeed change its mind about surgery and additional radiation when the alternative is worse. so sorry you have to worry about this. At least your mom has you to be so involved. Finally, she is certainly not too old to join OCF herself and join our little family. charm
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65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 507 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 507 | Since your Mom has gone to UCSF, she has been to a major NCI designated CCC, but I would still suggest she get a second opinion from another large Cancer Center. I don't believe there is another NCI designed CCC in the bay area, but I know in California we do have some excellent large Cancer Centers that are affiliated with NCI designated CCC's or CC's and may be worth consideration. This is a link to another resource locater: http://www.cancer.org/asp/search/ftc/ftc_global.asp
Don TXN2bM0 Stage IVa SCC-Occult Primary FNA 6/6/08-SCC in node<2cm PET/CT 6/19/08-SCC in 2nd node<1cm HiRes CT 6/21/08 Exploratory,Tonsillectomy(benign),Right SND 6/23/08 PEG 7/3/08-11/6/08 35 TomoTherapy 7/16/08-9/04/08 No Chemo Clear PET/CT 11/15/08, 5/15/09, 5/28/10, 7/8/11
| | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 720 Likes: 1 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2006 Posts: 720 Likes: 1 | If you don't want to travel far, Stanford is a member of the National Comprehensive Cancer Network, a group of 21 leading cancer centers across the country. NCCN annually publishes Clinical Practice Guidelines in Oncology for all types of cancer, representing the the latest treatment protocols. (UCSF is part of this group as well.)
Leslie
April 2006: Husband dx by dentist with leukoplakia on tongue. Oral surgeon's biopsy 4/28/06: Moderate dysplasia; pathology report warned of possible "skip effect." ENT's excisional biopsy (got it all) 5/31/06: SCC in situ/small bit superficially invasive. Early detection saves lives.
| | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 2 Member | OP Member Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 2 | Thanks for the quick response! Yes, maybe UC Davis / Stanford would be a good choice. She has a tough time going to San Francisco [only support is her husband who had a stroke] and I am in Minnesota...the geographics make it tough. But the drive from Napa area to Sacramento is a bit easier. And to Old Frack what an experience you have been through. I did take Mom to the Mayo Clinic here in MN - they said not resectable also but we are still hoping. Mom is only 60! She has "dial up" and is looking into high speed internet so she can get active on the forum. Thanks!
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Colleen Daughter of a stage IV base of tongue cancer patient [mom in Calif], irresectable, diag. 11/09; 3 months radiation and chemo but cancer still there; had Erbitux now oncologist wants to put her on Carboplatin.
| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,912 Likes: 52 OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | OCF Founder Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 4,912 Likes: 52 | There is a second list of centers of the top in the US on the OCF resources page listed in the Best hospitals link http://health.usnews.com/health/best-hospitals/cancer-hospital-rankings/
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