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#104900 10-08-2009 08:15 PM
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Hopefully the old saying about how the third time is the charm holds true. This is my third time around. First time in april 08 with a partial glossecotmy, 2nd time with a lump on the right neck and a modified neck dissection in January of 09 and now a lump on the left side, cofirmed by FNA. The good news is from the PET scan, the lump is the ONLY hot spot on me. Now they (the team) have to decide what to do. It is out of the area that they radiated before so they could do any or all of the three methods (surgery, radiation, chemo). I am talking to them about the cyber knife (that I heard about right here) After the three of them put their heads together, then that may be what they select followed up with some chemo. Last time they did it concurent. They have already said that what ever they do this time they will do sequentially. Oh Joy, they get to drag it out. I still don't have all my taste buds back from last time, at least the "sweet" ones. I do have the rest. The lymphadema under my chin keeps me on my toes when it comes to swallowing though. It pushes back against my throat, and I cough a lot. Maybe this is tied in with my new lump, I don't know. After the neck dissection they said "oh we got it this time, you are cancer clear". Here it is 6 months and we have a new one. When I had the neck dissection, I was able to work from Home, and that helped a great deal. Hopefully I can do it again. It keeps your mind off of everything, but you all know that. I still paln on retiring the end of January though. I told DW that we are going on our retirement cruise, if she had to wheel me. Sorry I am rambling. I don't mean to do that. It will be a week or two before they can all get their heads together. so I will probably start what ever about the 1st of November.


Male Age 65 non smoker, non drinker T2N1M0 2 Jun 2008 Partial Glossectomy & neck dissection; lymph node tumor right neck 27 Jan 2009 Modified neck dissection, 26 Feb-16 Apr 2009 Erbitux, 9 March - 20 April RT; 11 Sep 2009 lymph node tumor left neck; 4 Nov removal of manubrium and large tumor
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I am sorry to hear it came back a third time especially since I am battling that fear myself right now. I can testify from personal experience that CYBERKNIFE is the way to go if you can. what an amazing difference CK was from the IMRT sessions. The beam is so focused that the side effects are minimal compared to IMRT. One suggestion, ask for Ativan to keep your relaxed and still for the 45 minutes to an hour each session takes. Plus get an extra sheet put down on the lead bed as it gets tough on your back and sitting bones.
Finally, I had them put a mouth hole in my face mask this time and it really made it much more comfortable.
Good luck
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65 yr Old Frack
Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+
2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG
2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery
25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin
Apaghia /G button
2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa
40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin

Passed away 4-29-13
Charm2017 #104962 10-09-2009 09:30 PM
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Thanks Charm for the advice. I guess I am a little morbid because I still have my mask from last time. I know what you mean about your back hurting. It was all I could do to hold still long enough for the PET scans. MY RO called me today and scheduled me to come see him on Monday. MY ENT emailed me to say that he is consulting with another surgeon as well so the team is humming. DW is having a hard time. She feels that they found it now lets get it going. I understand her anxiety but I have to hold on, for her. I wish I could help her more. She feels that she should be able to do more to help me. I keep telling her that she is by being there with me every inch of the way. sometimes I wonder who has it rougher, the caregivers or us.


Male Age 65 non smoker, non drinker T2N1M0 2 Jun 2008 Partial Glossectomy & neck dissection; lymph node tumor right neck 27 Jan 2009 Modified neck dissection, 26 Feb-16 Apr 2009 Erbitux, 9 March - 20 April RT; 11 Sep 2009 lymph node tumor left neck; 4 Nov removal of manubrium and large tumor
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I would say the caregivers have the tougher task with us and our crazy thoughts. We have no choice and they do, but a good CG will be there.


Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
--- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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Hi

So sorry to hear about your recurrence and glad that you have such great treatment options. I am a caregiver worrying about my partner having a recurrence -waiting for tests at the moment. I dont know whether its worse for us, but its certainly different. I wrongly or rightly, feel I have taken responsibility for my partner getting the best treatment possible, because I have read much more about H&Ncancer and have a far better understanding than he does of risks and possible symptoms. I am impatient like your other half and worry like mad, which upsets and irritates him. I can really understand where she is coming from. Sounds to me like you are able to talk more openly about where you are both at than we are. I would celebrate that and have lots of chats about how you are both feeling if I were you.

Wishing you both well,

Cathy

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A doctor update. My RO says that this tumor is too big (the size of a chicken egg)to use a cyberknife. It also sits right on top of the sternum bone under the chin, so the RO wants to radiate a big piece of chest, to get the other lymph nodes that are in the area. I do have an appointment with the Head and neck surgeon's specialist next Monday. This guy is the guy the other head neck guys go to when "they" are not sure. Oh joy. I also got to see a dermatologist who did a punch biopsy on the rash radiating out from the tumor area. They just flat don't know what it is, but feel they absolutely need to find out. The RO is ready to go, and the MO is ready. Apparently they are talking aobut doing 5FU during the radiation and then Cisplatin afterwards(?). They are waiting on the surgical side of the house. We will see what we will see. Thanks everyone for sticking with me.


Male Age 65 non smoker, non drinker T2N1M0 2 Jun 2008 Partial Glossectomy & neck dissection; lymph node tumor right neck 27 Jan 2009 Modified neck dissection, 26 Feb-16 Apr 2009 Erbitux, 9 March - 20 April RT; 11 Sep 2009 lymph node tumor left neck; 4 Nov removal of manubrium and large tumor
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Sorry you're about to go through this again, ehall1. Let's hope that it will be done once and for all.


38 yo@dx, female, non-smoker, non-drinker, SCC right lateral tongue. T2N2aMx stage IVa; 1/20/09 bilateral neck dissection, hemiglossectomy, micromets in 2 right nodes, left all clear. 33xIMRT + 3 cisplatins. Tx completed 5/08/09. PET scan 7/29/09 clear, 5/26/10 clear, chest x-ray 5/23/11 clear
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More update. First the bad news. I went and saw the surgical specialist. Because the tumor has grown even more he and the team feel that he had better surgically remove it or the radiation and chemo won't be enough. They may have to remove part of the nubrium bone and will be taking a piece of my chest wall muscle and skin to make a flap to cover the hole. He feels if he doesn't do that at the same time I could be very very vunerable because of the all the blood vessals that will be left exposed including my carotid. This is sure a new one. It still only shows as being just the tumor though. That is the good news.


Male Age 65 non smoker, non drinker T2N1M0 2 Jun 2008 Partial Glossectomy & neck dissection; lymph node tumor right neck 27 Jan 2009 Modified neck dissection, 26 Feb-16 Apr 2009 Erbitux, 9 March - 20 April RT; 11 Sep 2009 lymph node tumor left neck; 4 Nov removal of manubrium and large tumor
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Sounds like you have a rough road ahead, but having a plan in place sure makes one feel better. Soooooo glad to hear that the tumour has not spread. Keep us posted.

Donna


Donna,69, SCC L Tongue T2N1MO Stg IV 4/04 w/partial gloss;32 radtx; T2N2M0 Stg IV; R tongue-2nd partial gloss w/graft 10/07; 30 radtx/2 cispl 2/08. 3rd Oral Cancer surgery 1/22 - Stage 1. 2022 surgery eliminated swallowing and bottom left jaw. Now a “Tubie for Life”.no food envy - Thank God! Surviving isn't easy!!!! .Proudly Canadian - YES, UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IS WONDERFUL! (Not perfect but definitely WONDERFUL)
Pandora99 #105388 10-19-2009 09:28 PM
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Sounds like a big surgery. Are you doing surgery alone or will they follow w/ chemo and radiation?

I will keep you in my thoughts. I just read your earlier post and I hope you and your wife are able to enjoy a lovely cruise early next year!


Margaret
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C/G: Husband, 48 (at time of dx)
Dx 5/18/07 SCC, BOT, lymph node involvement. T1N2BM0. (Stage 4a, G2/3)
Tx 6/18 - 8/3/07, IMRT x 33 Cisplatin x3 (stopped after 1st dose due to hearing issues). Weekly Erbitux started 6/27/07 completed 8/6/07.
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