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#193647 12-27-2016 05:40 AM
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Good Morning-

I am 20mths out from TORS and left side MR Neck dissection followed by 56 tx of IMRT at JH medical center for T3N2M0 BOT/tonsillar fossa primary w no nodal extension by pathology and clear margin. PETS at 5 mths and 18mths have shown NED.

I feel blessed. My questions are @ radiation fibrosis. I had a single 3.5cm lower cervical node (between zone 3-4) so received a higher dose RT above my supraclavicular area where there is minimal fat and soft tissue. I have significant scarring and mild-mod lymphedema.

Questions--
Are there any creams/treatment to reduce the "woody" skin fibrosis or has HBO been shown to help w this during the 1-2 yr post tx (improve current or reduce long term complications).

Is physical therapy or manual lymphatic massage the best tx to limit long term complications (swallowing muscle contracture, etc).

Thanks

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Welcome to OCF! Im glad you have found our group smile Its always nice having survivors join our ranks.

Please understand our site is made up of survivors/patients and caregivers. We do not have medical backgrounds, years of medical school and training. Doctors have the patients chart, history and the patient right in front of them, plus all the previously mentioned characteristics. We always speak from experience but what one patient goes thru another may not (even with the same history and the tumor exactly the same).

I have done many HBO dives. As far as HBO working on scar tissue, I have not used it for that. Nor have I seen any other HBO patients there for scarring. I vaguely remember another HBO patient had severe swelling of her ankles and did HBO to help with it. Im sorry my memory is not what it used to be and I cant remember much about her case besides she was in the next HBO chamber with her swollen lags. I used HBO to help heal post radiation slow healing wounds. Being 20 months post rads, most of your recovery is already behind you. In my opinion, I dont think HBO would be something that can help you. Ive seen at the pharmacy creams that claim to fix scars and wrinkles but I dont know if they work. I wouldnt buy any of them until I checked with at least one of my doctors. From everything Ive learned here, Im sorry to say the scarring may not improve unless thru surgery. Even that is risky! Having surgery in an area where it was previously radiated may not be an option as it would have compromised healing abilities.

A SLP or dietitian can have you complete a barium swallow test to first determine how well and what you are physically able to swallow. Many members have found improvements thru physical therapy with helping them to identify their swallowing capabilities. Some patients need to have their esophagus stretched with surgery using balloons. Usually these patients require at least 2 stretches before it helps them. They also need periodic stretches for their throat to remain open.


Im very sorry you are having late stage complications from your treatments. Oral cancer (OC) is a brutal disease with barbaric treatments and seemingly never ending recoveries. Its a rare patient that we see who does not have any issues after their treatments. You have been thru enough and Im sure it was no easy battle. It just doesnt seem fair that any other issues would bother you. I think your medical team is the very best place to get help with your issues. You were treated at one of the countrys top CCCs. They should have an entire team able to assist you with any after treatment problems you may encounter. Im wishing you all the very best with this.

Maybe something in the Treatment link or the Recovery Complications link could help you with more info.

Best wishes!



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Christine
SCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44
2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07
-65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr
Clear PET 1/08
4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I
surg 4/16/08 clr marg
215 HBO dives
3/09 teeth out, trismus
7/2/09 recur, Stg IV
8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy
3wks medicly inducd coma
2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit
PICC line IV antibx 8 mo
10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg
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Welcome to the forum.

In my experience, swallowing muscle contracture may happen over time. My husband was swallowing fine until two and a half years post radiation. In fact, he had received five or six easophageal dilatations when his swallowing muscles failed. My guess is, it depends on what the cause of the swallowing difficulties are. I would agree with Christine that a barium swallowing test will help identify the cause.



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She stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way, she adjusted her sails... Elizabeth Edwards

Wife to John,dx 10/2012, BOT, HPV+, T3N2MO, RAD 70 gy,Cisplatinx2 , PEG in Dec 6, 2012, dx dvt in both legs after second chemo session, Apr 03/13 NED, July 2013 met to lungs, Phase 1 immunotherapy trial Jan 18/14 to July/14. Taxol/carboplatin July/14. Esophagus re-opened Oct 14. PEG out April 8, 2015. Phase 2 trial of Selinexor April to July 2015. At peace Jan 15, 2016.
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I would recommend meeting with a speech and swallow pathologist - they will do the swallow study, but will also give you exercises to do to prevent long term complications, as well as improve your swallow function now. I am nearing 5 years out and actually had a follow-up appointment with my speech and swallow pathologist about a month back, where she did another swallow study and got me started on some more exercises again (I saw the same doctor for the first 2-3 months after treatment, which was a big help). Although I didn't even notice I was having any swallowing issues, she said she saw some "leakage" when I drink, and thinks these exercises should help greatly. I will admit though they are kind of a pain, and I've had trouble making myself actually do them (I am supposed to do these exercises 7x a day, which is difficult), but I think I am already noticing some improvements.


Emily - 24 years old at diagnosis
HPV-, no risk factors
T2N2b Squamous Cell Carcinoma
Left oral tongue, poorly differentiated
Hemiglossectamy, reconstruction, partial neck dissection
30 Radiation treatments, weekly chemo (cisplatin)
1/13/12 last day of treatment
Diagnosed October 2011

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