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#170500 09-05-2013 11:26 AM
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This is kinda silly, but my Dad couldn't wait to eat hamburgers again. His doc tells him he shouldn't eat them because they're bad for you. Ha. I mean, seriously? He's not talking about eating a hamburger every day or anything. I know they aren't the healthiest choice, but everything in moderation. He also told him no alcohol at all since his white blood cells are low. Having some beer and wine was something my Dad has really enjoyed lately. Does anyone else here have a little alcohol once in a while? Clearly, in excess wouldn't be good but that's not good for anyone. He just wants a beer while he watches football. I figure this doc is clearly at the far end of the super healthy spectrum, considering he told him not to eat burgers, either. Thoughts? Do any of your drink or enjoy a beverage now and then?


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Jack, age 69, non-smoker, BOT primary, Stage 4, HPV+
1/28/2013: Surgery. All cancerous masses removed. Dad is CANCER FREE!!!
2/26/2012: Beginning of TX. Weekly chemo: Carboplatin and Taxol. Daily RT (about 40 total)
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Actually, a medium rare burger was the first beef I was able to eat since treatment ended. And beer? I had a few last weekend! I can't do wine but a nice pale ale was just wonderful.

Everything in moderation wink

"T"


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Cardiac bypass 11/07
Cardiac stents 10/2012
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Palatine Tonsillectomy/Biopsies 12-21-12
Selective Neck Dissection/Lingual Tonsillectomy/biopsies TORS 2/7/13
Emergency Surgery/Bleeding 2/18/13
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A burger and a beer once in awhile is a good thing as it lifts the soul. On balance, the benefits outweigh any negatives. Why bother going thru treatment unless you can enjoy a beer now and then :-)


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1 tooth out
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2nd tooth out
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Ha! Bad for your health lol. Like chemo and radiation isn't. I couldn't eat hamburgers or ground beef for a long time. It was a texture thing I couldn't take or swallow. Now I enjoy them, but like to eat mine rare! A little risky, but so it eating vegetables or rice, pasta that is not stored properly, reheated or left out too long. I do like like Sushi too, but cant eat most fish if cooked. If hamburgers are cooked medium, I can't eat them or swallow, and most other meats too, and tend to like fatty cut meats. I like hamburgers that are mixed cuts, fatty, like the steak burgers fom Omaha steaks. Maybe I'll make mine in the future mixed with sirloin or chuck, brisket and short ribs. Haven't tried the Kobe Beef burgers, but heard thier good, but may be American Wakobe beef something here, which is very similar, same beef, but not from Kobe in Japan.

Beer was one of the first things I could taste, besides coffee. I think it's the bitters. Light beer, cheap beer seems to have more carbonation that burns more, and prefer more wheaten beers, dark beer, stouts, pale ale's, even lagers mixed with tomato juice like a Bloody Mary, but with beer, also called Michalada. I can make three drinks with a bottle, and that's usually my limit once in a while, and If I can't drink it, I'll cook with it lol. Guinness beef stew tastes good, and made lamb chops with stout sauce with mashed potatoes, creamed spinach a few times smile

I'll stick with enjoying what I can, while I can, and when I can.


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[quote=donfoo]A burger and a beer once in awhile is a good thing as it lifts the soul. [/quote]

You sir, are a poet among poets.


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6/26/13 DX SCC R palatine tonsil
7/16/13 TORS tonsillectomy & selective ND, mets to 2 nodes
9/3/13 Cisplatin and rads begin, tolerated 1.5 of 3 planned chemo doses
10/16/13 Treatment ends
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Jan 17 Biopsy -- no cancer!
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Ha! Ron's two most favorite things when he was able to eat and chew! He was a Burger and a Beer man for sure! And even though Ron knew it wasn't good, that man drank beer until 1 month before his passing, I didn't like it but "he was the Captain of his own Vessel" so I just let him at it! If your dad is on meds that could be another reason, it will intensify the "buzz" if he has pain pills so he needs to be careful, it may knock him out, but hey let a man have his beer or wine sometimes! Especially during football!


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Out of Pain 4/3/13
4/12-lung and under chin growth no treatment
1/13/12 lung biopsy
6/11 recur 6/30 resection #2 Clear margins
Clear 12/10
Surg 5/13/10 neck dis/nodes part gloss/flap R thigh all teeth out
RAD 30 8/10
DX 4/2/10 "Oral Cavity" T3NOMO
12/28/07 Non Hodg Lymph remission 7/08
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[quote=SUEZ]let a man have his beer or wine sometimes! Especially during football!
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Ahhh yes! Now, if it was only Ok to have a stogie with that beer during the game.....

"T"


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Vegans die too (they just wish they'd had a porterhouse and a Guiness beforehand)


Dx March 2011 via FNA (49 yrs old)
SCC BoT
HPV+ exact strain unknown
Stage IVa T3N2cM0
Cisplatin x 3, IMRT x 40 (7267 cGy)
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Let me get this straight....Chemo, aka off the chart POISON, is good for you but a burger and a beer is not? I rest my case.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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I have to admit, a burger was the main thing I craved post surgery. Having the teeth removed limited what I could eat, as I had 1/2 of my bottom teeth left. Made biting difficult. I could mush a McDonald's cheeseburger ok. Can't wait to sink my teeth into one of those Monster burgers, but alas, I do not know when.

I agree that the dark beer tastes wonderful, having been an excessive 'social' drinker before. I now limit to 2 or 3 at a sitting. Seems to calm the nerves a bit.

Can't say I miss a stogie, as I didn't smoke 'tobacco', but I find great relaxation and pain free side effects from another smoke. wink


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Dx - Age 50, SCC 7/26/13 R lower gum
8/6/13 Diagnosis - T1N0M0
8/23/13 5 teeth and tissue removed
Under recovery, next appt 9/12
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