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I'm looking up info re the Gardasil shot (On the Gardisal site) and one of the FAQ questions is:
"What are the ingredients in GARDISAL?" and the answer is:

"The ingredients are proteins of HPV Types 6, 11, 16, and 18, amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate, yeast protein, sodium chloride, L-histidine, polysorbate 80, sodium borate, and water for injection."

The particular ingredient that concerns me is the amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate. I've heard that aluminum has been found in the brains of Alzheimers patients and wonder if this should be of any concern for young girls receiving the series of Gardasil shots? I'm researching this for a friend of mine whose grandmother has Alzheimers and an almost 13 year old daughter who has not had the Gardasil shots. Thanks for any encouraging light you can shed on this.


Anne-Marie
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Short answer. Nothing here except neuromythology. Please do notmake me get specific on just how false and unfounded these type of vacuous Internet rumors are.
You know OCF strictly prohiibits crazy on guardisill
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Ditto.

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PET 6/11 clear.
R) level 2-4 neck dissection 8/1/11 to remove residual node - necrotic with NED
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Oh-o-o-o Charm! I am just SO glad we have you! Great Science article - I love the term "neuromythology". I thought as much, but coming from you really puts a punch in it.
And Tammy - Thank you for your wonderful confirmation of Charm's comments!




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My daughter and sons have had them. It MIGHT cause issues...OC DOES cause issues. 'Nough said.
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My two boys are getting them right now. I wish I had it.


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Aluminium was linked with dementia in the 70s. The studies referred to long term exposure such as aluminium cookware leaching into food and daily use of anti-perspirants. This is not likely to be in any way similar to small and short term doses contained in gardisil.

I do not know if they ever proved a causal link but I don't use aluminium saucepans or aluminium containing deodorants. I WOULD however submit to gardisil shots if I was a young person


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My children have both had the shots without any side effects.


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If this was a serious concern, then we have a bigger problem than a component of this one vaccine. We come into contact with aluminum and its ions and permutations/alloys every day of our lives. Cook in an aluminum pan ever? Take an antacid? Wrap something in foil to save to eat later? Drink a canned soda or beer? Of course 8% of the earths crust is made of aluminum. Use an anti-perspirant? I could go on here ad nauseum, but if there really is a connection, we have to dump some serious amounts of it in our lives� the Guradasil shot is the least of our concerns.

Every scientist that has pointed at the MANY vaccines that contain this form of aluminum as a risk, has be broadly discredited in peer reviewed scientific literature. But there is a HUGE amount of money to be made in the autism/anti vaccine world, and as with most things, just follow the money of the people that are selling books related to pseudo science that does not stand up to peer scientific scrutiny. Look at Australia that has 73% of all their school age girls vaccinated with Gardasil without serous incident. The difference isn't that Australians are different biologically than Americans, it is that they do not have a huge anti vaccine crowd in their midst spreading pseudo science and innuendo.

There are plenty of things in our world that are dangerous. Everyone seems to ignore the simple issue of volume of exposure. Just about anything is toxic in huge amounts, fluoride what we put in our drinking water for instance. It is a serious toxin. But in small parts per million it prevents tooth decay while posing no serious risks to us. The lists of similar things could fill volumes.

Nothing in life is without risks. If people really worry about this vaccine, they should also not drive on the freeways where far more people are going to meet a bad experience or end. We can't go through life living in a bubble. Stay away from hot dogs at the ball park too please...


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Thank you so much, everyone for your replies! They really help.
Brian, your comments really put things in perspective and are so appreciated!
I am so grateful to all of you and for having OCF in my life.


Anne-Marie
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