| | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,606 Likes: 2 | OK, first, I have shared some of the worst in regards to post treatment or late effect issues of treatment with so many here. My first inclination was to not do that because I do not want to instill fear in anyone. Thanks to some gentle persuasion from Charm I decided that it was more important to offer help to those with longer term issues but also because many of the issues I face are really issues that deal with muscle pain, swallowing and such that we all go through after treatment.
Second, thank you Charm since you are right. It is important for all of you to know that there are many with small issues like carrying a water bottle for life, adjusting diet and exercise. As we go through them they seem huge and once we settle into a new normal we trudge onward. Second, for those facing some of the darker days of recurrence, late effects of radiation, etc., it is more important to know that others have made it beyond those days and folks like PaulB and Charm are examples that you can make it through the toughest of situations and still maintain a sense of normalcy and optimism. So, with that in mind, read some of my posts not out of fear but to learn a specific perspective of one patient and see that fear subsides and you move forward with hope, spirit and determination!
Thank you for those that have reached out privately to ask me questions and to Charm and PaulB for just being who you are!
Now, go live life! Be well but be diligent.
Ed
Last edited by Uptown; 02-13-2013 09:02 AM.
SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0 Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03 Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08. Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11 Cervical Myelitis 09/12 Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12 Dysautonomia 11/12 Hospice care 09/12-01/13. COPD 01/14 Intermittent CHF 6/15 Feeding tube NPO 03/16 VFI 12/2016 ORN 12/2017 Cardiac Event 06/2018 Bilateral VFI 01/2021 Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022 Bilateral VFI 05/2022 Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 945 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 945 | Beautifully put, Ed.
When we were in the midst of the most difficult part of my husband's therapy, my son sent me a hand-written letter as if we were in the midst of our American Civil War, instead of a battle with cancer. It reminded us that people can still enjoy a sunny day or a beautiful piece of music even in the most difficult of times.
Maria
CG to husband - SCC Tonsil T1N2M0 HPV+ Never Smoker First symptoms 7/2010, DX 12/2010 TX 40 IRMT (1.8 gy) + 10 Cetuximab PET Scans 6/2011 + 3/2012 clear, 5 year physical exam clear; chest CT's clear of cancer. On thyroid pills. Life is good.
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,267 Likes: 4 | Thanks Ed. You said everything perfectly.
"...Fear subsides and you move forward with hope, spirit, and determination!"
10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil 11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp 01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks 06/11 30 HBO 08/11 RND PNI 06/12 SND PNI LVI 08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy 10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux 10/13 SND 10/13 TBO/Angiograph 10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI 12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo 11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO 03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN 09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy 04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site 06/17 Heart Attack Stent 02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,357 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,357 Likes: 5 | You are absolutely right Ed, there are many who benefit from your substantial knowledge of late side effects. Doctors and patients are all dealing with immediate issues and in my opinion that is where we all should put our focus. What gets lost is the "long term" side effects which you are so well versed in. We all pray that these are things we will be lucky enough to deal with someday, but when they arrive help IS needed. Thank you for so generously sharing your experiences and tips.
Donna
Donna,69, SCC L Tongue T2N1MO Stg IV 4/04 w/partial gloss;32 radtx; T2N2M0 Stg IV; R tongue-2nd partial gloss w/graft 10/07; 30 radtx/2 cispl 2/08. 3rd Oral Cancer surgery 1/22 - Stage 1. 2022 surgery eliminated swallowing and bottom left jaw. Now a “Tubie for Life”.no food envy - Thank God! Surviving isn't easy!!!! .Proudly Canadian - YES, UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IS WONDERFUL! (Not perfect but definitely WONDERFUL)
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,082 | Ed
Thank you for those kind words. Once TX is done, the problems start appearing just when most of the support system is winding down. We have a lot of knowledge here on OCF and glad to have you adding to it. Keep the Faith Charm 65 yr Old Frack Stage IV BOT T3N2M0 HPV 16+ 2007:72GY IMRT(40) 8 ERBITUX No PEG 2008:CANCER BACK Salvage Surgery 25GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Apaghia /G button 2012: CANCER BACK -left tonsilar fossa 40GY-CyberKnife(5) 3 Carboplatin Passed away 4-29-13
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 757 Likes: 2 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 757 Likes: 2 | Ed,
Thank you for posting that - beautifully put! The only thing I find lacking on the OCF forum is a "LIKE" button!
I'm also in the long term survivor category (7 years 8 months) and experiencing some of the late effects of radiation (dental issues and a few others). But these are minor in comparison to what some are experiencing and I'm certainly thrilled to be still here and able to help others. Life is still good!
Thank you all!
Susan
SCC R-Lateral tongue, T1N0M0 Age 47 at Dx, non-smoker, casual drinker, HPV- Surgery: June 2005 RT: Feb-Apr 2006 HBOT: 45 in 2008; 30 in 2013; 30 in 2022 -> Total 105! Recurrence/Surgeries: Jan & Apr 2010 Biopsy 2/2011: Moderate dysplasia Surgery 4/2011: Mild dysplasia Dental issues: 2013-2025 (ORN of lower jaw)
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,844 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,844 | Love it Ed! Keep sharing brotha as your knowledge and experience is both needed and appreciated my friend.
We can't know how people will react to our message, but we are responsible for sharing it. All we can do is try our best to relay our message in a way that people can relate to us, we won't reach everyone and there will always be those who misunderstand.
Young Frack, SCC T4N2M0, Cisplatin,35+ rads,ND, RT Mandiblectomy w fibular free flap, facial paralysis, "He who has a "why" to live can bear with almost any "how"." -Nietzche "WARNING" PG-13 due to Sarcasm & WAY too much attitude, interact at your own risk.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) | | "OCF Canuck" Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 381 | Ed,
The other benefits, albeit likely unintended, is that in reading people's stories of the battles they have emerged (or not) from, we are all reminded of a deep wellspring of strength that is the core of human nature, which most need never tap in their lifetime. When you do have to, it is comforting to see you are not alone, and that the well runs very, very deep.
Also, speaking for myself, it is a reminder of just how lucky I have been in my treatment, which is a kick in the pants when I start to feel sorry for myself, as I have had it so much easier, than so many here. It is easy to lose sight of the big picture and wallow in one's own circumstances, but then I see your story, Christine's and Paul's and Charm's, and so many others, and think: "You stupid ass, take nothing for granted, and carry on".
So, short version (I'm a lawyer there is no shorter version than this)thanks to all for that.
Tina Diag: Aug. 13/12 T3N0M0 50% + glossectomy and bilateral radical neck dissection, removal of nodes zones I - V Surgery October 11/12 Chemo/rad on hold due to clear margins and nodes Sept 21/13 clear CT with anomaly thought to be the artery, being watched closely. Dec 16/13 - anomaly confirmed artery, all clear nickname: "get 'r done" Plans: kick cancer's butt
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