#83990 11-11-2008 05:05 PM | Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5 Member | OP Member Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5 | I have been diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma on the right floor of mouth/tongue. I had surgery to remove as well as a follow-up of radiation and followin that, chemo therapy. During radiation I had a sever flare-up and had to stop the IMRT treatment. It was resumed and I concluded the treatment.
My question is if re-radiation of this same area, especially the head and neck, is possible and if so, how many times has this been done before. My understanding was that when you had radiation you cannot reradiate the same part over again? it is true? Sofar my doctors has suggested IMRT, stereotactical radiation, proton treatment and I have difficulty deciding which would be the best, could you let me know your opinion?
Thank you for your help. pino | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,128 | IMRT is a lot more targeted that the conventional (XRT) -- Think of a rifle compared to a shotgun -- Depending on exactly where you were previously irradiated, it may be possible to do more. Only your Radiological Oncologist will be able to tell you for sure.
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Age 67 1/2 Ventral Tongue SCC T2N0M0G1 10/05 Anterior Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 6/08 Base of Tongue SCC T2N0M0G2 12/08 Three partial glossectomy (10/05,11/05,6/08), PEG, 37 XRT 66.6 Gy 1/06 Neck dissection, trach, PEG & forearm free flap (6/08) Total glossectomy, trach, PEG & thigh free flap (12/08) On August 21, 2010 at 9:20 am, Pete went off to play with the ratties in the sky.
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SCC part glossectomy 3/06, recur 8/06 glossectomy, floor of mouth, part of jaw removed, RT/chemo thru 10/12/06, PET clear 7/08 "A bend in the road is not the end of the road, unless you fail to make the turn" Passed away 12/14/08
| | | | Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5 Member | OP Member Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5 | | | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Most times doctors dont want to use radiation a second time. It depends on many things first how much you had before and where. Even if the spot is a couple inches away from the original place that got radiation, there is whats called scatter radiation to think about.
Some doctors are now doing radiation for a second time. I guess its up to the individual and their doctors on if it is an option.
ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 583 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 583 | Pino,
It is my understanding that you can not be radiated in the same area. Please let me know if this has changed in the last few years.. Thanks all
2004 SCC R.tip 1/4 tongue Oct. 2005 R. Neck SCC cancer/Chemo Cisplatin 2x/8wks. Rad. Removed Jugular vein, Lymph gland & some neck muscle. TX finished 1/20/06... B.Cancer 3/29/07 Finished 6/07 Bi-op 7/15/09 SCC in-situ, laser surgery removed from 1st. sight. Right jaw replacement 11/3/14. 9 yrs cancer free as of Jan. 2015
| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,552 | There were some clinical trials done several years ago to determine whether re-irradiation was feasible see: http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0167814006003975http://jco.ascopubs.org/cgi/content/abstract/24/17/2653http://www.amjclinicaloncology.com/pt/re/ajco/abstract.00000421-200808000-00015.htm;jsessionid=JmFWBZ4n1cyz0TsR13M2Ycf8kdJzvtKJxDQy0L0mNkBh17fkvy2P!1173332523!181195629!8091!-1 http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/2270.cfm?IRBNO=08-050Here is a list of current clinical trials: http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=%22Head+and+Neck+Cancer%22
Gary Allsebrook *********************************** Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2 Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy) ________________________________________________________ "You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
| | | | Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5 Member | OP Member Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5 | DM32AMA, conventional thinking still prefers not to be re-radiate however there exists apparently more and more success stories with reradiation even as a modality with curative intent. | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,357 Likes: 5 "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | "OCF Canuck" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,357 Likes: 5 | I had 32 radiation treatments to the left side in 2004, followed by 30 more to the right side in early 2008. I have some radiation side effects re hardening of tissue, etc but so far no cancer recurrance. Just FYI
Donna,69, SCC L Tongue T2N1MO Stg IV 4/04 w/partial gloss;32 radtx; T2N2M0 Stg IV; R tongue-2nd partial gloss w/graft 10/07; 30 radtx/2 cispl 2/08. 3rd Oral Cancer surgery 1/22 - Stage 1. 2022 surgery eliminated swallowing and bottom left jaw. Now a “Tubie for Life”.no food envy - Thank God! Surviving isn't easy!!!! .Proudly Canadian - YES, UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IS WONDERFUL! (Not perfect but definitely WONDERFUL)
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | I often wondered when I was actively thinking about the possibility of my cancer coming back which I would choose; 1. to be re radiated and possibly die from it's complications or 2. to not be radiated again and most likely die from the cancer. I told myself I would take my chances with the radiation.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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