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Markus #73792 04-28-2008 05:09 AM
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As a caregiver to someone who appeared to have perfect veins, I'd recommend anyone undergoing chemo get a port.

This was not an option offered to us, and no one warned us about the damaging effects of chemo on the veins. Even if you are only scheduled for 3 chemos (like my husband was)...there are weekly blood draws and extra draws for when/if there are fevers or hydration needed.

Then, my husband's regime switched to weekly chemo.

On one of our last visits at the chemo center, he was poked by 3 nurses for 1 1/2 hours and they still couldn't get enough blood to do lab work...and, they were working with a pediatric needle.

And, when he got a staph infection post treatment, when the IV antibiotic was given it blew a vein and they had no idea how much medication he received.

It was terrible. I am a big advocate of a port for any H&N patient going through chemo.


Margaret
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C/G: Husband, 48 (at time of dx)
Dx 5/18/07 SCC, BOT, lymph node involvement. T1N2BM0. (Stage 4a, G2/3)
Tx 6/18 - 8/3/07, IMRT x 33 Cisplatin x3 (stopped after 1st dose due to hearing issues). Weekly Erbitux started 6/27/07 completed 8/6/07.
mhupe #73907 04-30-2008 05:05 PM
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Our biggest regret is not getting a port. Watching Dan get stuck repeatedly then last week watching two veins blow... And just the tension and stress when they are looking for a good vein. Our MO didn't think Dan would need one. Theoretically you think oh 7 chemos - 7 sticks - no big deal. BEST case is 14 sticks (lab + treatment) and that is truly PERFECT. Any extra labwork, dehydration issues, any veins blow, etc. you start addding sticks and believe me - they add up fast. I bet Dan's been stuck 36 times so far. And he's having a pretty good go of it, all things considered.

I wish you the best of luck with your treatment and you of course have to make the decision that feels best to you. I just see so many things that are hard for Dan and they can't be helped, but this could have been helped - so now it's like why didn't we do this - UGH!


Michelle, CG to husband (45), DX 2/08 Stage IVa Adenocarcinoma Salivary Gland (T2N2bMO)
Parotidectomy & ND 2/08, Tumor margins not clear, 4 of 30 nodes positve for cancer,
TX IMRT 39x, cisplatin 7x (completed 5/1/08),
PEG (4/22 - 7/9), No port. Currently in remission!

luvmyhubby #73908 04-30-2008 05:10 PM
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What does it mean when people say that veins blow? Is this some kind of serious damage? Is it permanent?


Squamous cell carcinoma base of tongue. Lymph involvement unclear; staging placed at "2 or 3." Biopsy 4/18/2008. Treatment: IMRT every day for 7 weeks. Cisplaten once a week to sensitize cancer to radiation. Treatment ended 7/16/08. PET/CT shows no more cancer.
Andrew111 #73911 04-30-2008 05:19 PM
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I'll try to explain what I saw last week. They would put the needle in and for the first 10 seconds think they had it - then you would see it swell and then flatten and it would bleed. Once it did that they couldn't get anything out of it and they had to start over.

I don't think it's serious or permanent, but you know I honestly don't know that for sure. Hopefully somebody with alot more knowledge than me can answer.


Michelle, CG to husband (45), DX 2/08 Stage IVa Adenocarcinoma Salivary Gland (T2N2bMO)
Parotidectomy & ND 2/08, Tumor margins not clear, 4 of 30 nodes positve for cancer,
TX IMRT 39x, cisplatin 7x (completed 5/1/08),
PEG (4/22 - 7/9), No port. Currently in remission!

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