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debandbill #70130 02-20-2008 09:05 AM
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Just to chip in on this thread, at my CCC (Arthur James Cancer Hospital & Solove Research Institute @ Ohio State), I am seen routinely by my surgical oncologist, radiation oncologist and medical oncologist. I see each every 6 - 9 weeks, and with staggering of the appointments, it is seldom more than 3 or 4 weeks without seeing somebody.

I finished treatment in early July, had my first PET in early October (ordered by MO), and a repeat in early December (due to suspected false positives on first one). At every surgical oncologist appointment, they take a current history, do vital signs, examine oral cavity, tongue, oropharynx and larynx with mirror and/or scope, and do a thorough palpation of neck. RO does the same routine, but adds examination of axillary areas and listens to chest. MO does visual of throat, palpates neck, chest abdomen, and draws blood. Every other visit or so he will order a chest X-Ray.

My RO and surgeon both seem to prefer the physical examination to scans. MO puts a little more weight on the scan portion. RO told me that after thousands and thousands of patients, he has a good ability to detect even early recurrences with physical exam, and can generally tell which patients are going to do well and which are not through the clinical course. Don't know how true that is, but since he thinks I'm doing great, I might choose to believe him! ;-)



Jeff
SCC Right BOT Dx 3/28/2007
T2N2a M0G1,Stage IVa
Bilateral Neck Dissection 4/11/2007
39 x IMRT, 8 x Cisplatin Ended 7/11/07
Complete response to treatment so far!!
JeffL #70132 02-20-2008 10:01 AM
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Wow, Jeff, it sounds they are being totally thorough with you! I am seen every two months, alternating between MO and Surgical Oncologist. I haven't seen an RO since July. Nobody uses the mirrors when checking my throat. No blood work, although when I requested it in December they were happy to order it.


Left tonsil SCC, HPV+. T2N0M0. Tonsillectomy 3-07, bilateral radiation, cisplatin 3x, Tx completed 6-06. Clear PET 4-01-2008.
Thyroidectomy 5-9-08, resulting in permanent surgically-induced hypoparathyroidism and adrenal problems. Bummer.
debandbill #70135 02-20-2008 11:40 AM
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The fact is that PET scans are not indicated as standard follow up by the current NCCN Oncology Practice Guidelines. Some doctors order them anyway and there is no consensus of opinion.

There have been many discussions of the post Tx surveillance issues with PET scans and doing a search in the archives will reveal a lot of interesting information and may even answer all of your questions and reveal some things that you may not know...

For the record, no current scanning modality can detect a tumor 2mm or smaller (about 1/8").

girlcat, I have concerns that they are not visually examining your throat with mirrors or an occasional scope. The visual and palpation exam is the NCCN recommended gold standard followup exam, along with semiannual bloodwork, TSH level test and annual chest x-ray. If you are not getting these you need to find out why?

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Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2
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Deb,

Will do assuming I remember. LOL


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Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
davidcpa #70154 02-20-2008 02:22 PM
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I agree with Jeff seeing as we have the Same Drs to see at Ohio State. Of course right now, it's been since the 3rd of Jan, but with all these other Drs here working on me, I have no idea when i will get back to Ohio State.


Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
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EzJim #70155 02-20-2008 03:24 PM
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Hi Gary---I should have mentioned that I am getting scoped every two months! No mirrors though. I am 7 months post TX, I will be due again for chest x-ray in August. As far as the thyroid goes, it is very likely that I will be having it removed in the next few months because of suspicious nodules. As for other bloodwork, what would they be looking for? My MO last ordered bloodwork in June, but I requested it in December because I suspected I was anemic(I was).


Left tonsil SCC, HPV+. T2N0M0. Tonsillectomy 3-07, bilateral radiation, cisplatin 3x, Tx completed 6-06. Clear PET 4-01-2008.
Thyroidectomy 5-9-08, resulting in permanent surgically-induced hypoparathyroidism and adrenal problems. Bummer.
debandbill #70214 02-21-2008 08:40 AM
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I remember my ent telling me that he wanted to wait at least 6 months after rad and even longer because he did not want me to go through the false positives pet scans can do. Since then, I am afraid to ask, because I do not want to think I am dying again. I had a horrible bout with depression and he knows it. I think we are both afraid to mention it.
Do you have to get put all the way in a tube or is it more like a ct scan with a donut shape?


Partial mandibulectomy and neck dissection 2/3/07. T2NOMO.
Had 14 hour operation which included reconstruction of jaw.
Reconstruction failed. Some radiation, no chemo.
peace4uall #70218 02-21-2008 08:57 AM
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You are very slowly pulled into a tube. I kept my eyes shut. Honestly it is not that bad. I used the time for meditation.


Left tonsil SCC, HPV+. T2N0M0. Tonsillectomy 3-07, bilateral radiation, cisplatin 3x, Tx completed 6-06. Clear PET 4-01-2008.
Thyroidectomy 5-9-08, resulting in permanent surgically-induced hypoparathyroidism and adrenal problems. Bummer.
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