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herson #67585 01-14-2008 10:13 PM
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The FDA can sieze their products and destroy them, file charges against the company officers (and also throw them in jail), padlock the manufacturer, issue warning letters, fines, etc. Supplements and herbals were excluded, by congress, from FDA scrutiny as long as they don't make claims that they are drugs or can cure or mitigate disease. This extends to claims made by individuals in health food stores. GNC (for example) has received numerous warning letters.

"Honest" and "politician" in the same sentence - whew!

There are some doctors on board with this also. Read carefully the Quackwatch link on alternative cures for cancer.

Disclaimer: We are not against adjunctive treatments per se but when they are used in lieu of legitimate medical care, then you must exercise great caution. There have been more than a few who tried alternative treatments first, only to find out that by the time they figured out it didn't work, their cancer was too advanced to cure by traditional medicine. If you have a bottomless pit of money and wish to persue Poly MVA or any of the myriad of known quack treatments, laetrile, etc., then go for it. Just don't forgo legitimate and proven medical care - even if it isn't the easy way out.

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Gary Allsebrook
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Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2
Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy)
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Gary #67622 01-15-2008 01:38 PM
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I had a neighbor would was Dxed with Stage IV SCC last spring. She was the mother of my wife's best friend. I talked to her and her 2 daughters till I was blue in the face. She was told she needed a ND and concurrent chemo/rad by Moffitt. She opted out going to the Bahamas for a miracle cure that cost her over $25,000, not including travel and lodging and avoided the surgery, chemo and rad. I found the quack on the internet (can't remember his name now) and he was barred from practicing in the UK, his homeland, and most other countries including the U.S. I believe he once also practiced in Germany.

She came home to be with her family in October and died in November. What a waste.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
davidcpa #67626 01-15-2008 03:00 PM
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Oh my David,

How frustrating and amazingly sad when we both know how much help she would have gotten by following Moffitt's treatment plan. This is not to say that she would not have succumbed at some point to her cancer but I dare say that she would have lived a much longer and relatively better life than she did. What was your wife's BF's position?? Did she disagree with her mothers decision?? Deb


Deb..caregiver to husband, age 63 at diagnosis, former smoker who quit in 1997.
DIAGNOSIS: 6/26/07 SCC right tonsil/BOT T4N0M0
TREATMENT START: 8/9/07 cisplatin/taxol X 7..IMRT twice daily X 31.5.
TREATMENT END: 10/1/07
PEG OUT: 1/08
PORT OUT: 4/09
FOLLOWUP: Now only annual exams. ALL CLEAR!

Passed away 1/7/17 RIP Bill
debandbill #67665 01-16-2008 03:56 AM
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Deb,

She was the one that got me involved to try and talk some sense into her stubborn Mom. Her sister lived across state and became almost neutral which disturbed both of us. Nobody could guarantee a cure but at least with Moffitt she had a fighting chance.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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