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#52200 08-23-2007 05:34 AM
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I'm a long time lurker, first time poster. I've been gathering advice from this web site for several years and never really felt like I had much to offer in return. Then I got to thinking the other day that it might be time to share my husband's story.

My husband was initially diagnosed with stage IV of the base of the tongue. He did 7 weeks of radiation with 3 rounds of cisplatin. Then he underwent a selctive dissection on the right side of his neck and a radical dissection on the left. Things looked great and we thought we were done with this. Following his surgery, John was getting PT to help him with the neck and shoulder issues. The therapist was doing some massage to the area and felt a small nodule that hadn't been there a week earlier. The therapist called John's surgeon and he was seen the next day. To say that his PET scan came back "lit up like a Christmas tree" might be something of an understatement. We were absolutely crushed. This was only three months after he had completed his initial therapy.

The ENT said he was probably looking at 6-12 months. He added that "it's extremely rare that anyone can get out as far as 2 years with this level of disease."

The next stop was to see John's medical oncologist. Bless her heart. She sat there and talked to us about having no hope, false hope and hope. The discussion should have been taped. It was that good.

And so John entered the world of clinical trials.

Plan B. Gefitinib. Did nothing.

Plan C. Lapatinib. This slowed the progression for about 6 months.

Plan D. This was carboplatin, paclitaxel and G3139. The WOW factor here was high. The tumor on John's neck was the size of my fist when he started this. It rapidly vaporized down to nothing. The tumors in his lungs disappeared. This lasted for about nine months before things started progressing again.

Plan E. Capecitabine and gemcitabine. This held the neck disease stable but a lymph node near his sternum went from 8 mm to 12 mm -- about the size of a pencil eraser. Not much but enough to kick him off of this.

Plan F. Cetuximab. (The first non-trial treatment since his recurrence was diagnosed.) This has also been keeping the neck stable but there was still some progression with the chest lymph node.

So now we are at Plan F, version 2.0. He is still doing the Erbitux but he's now in the middle of a short course of radiation to that pesky chest node. His MO thinks she can still get a little bit more mileage out of the Erbitux when the radiation is done. Then she'll move on to something else.

What does the future hold? Well, the outlook hasn't changed. Things are still slowly progressing and all of this is palliative. But John has done really well. He was just out salmon fishing on Lake Michigan last week. And this month marks the 26th month since his recurrence was diagnosed.

The last two years have been rather challenging but I wouldn't trade them for the world. If you find yourself facing a recurrence, don't give up. You just don't know what might happen.

A friend from Zurich told us that there is a saying in Switzerland: "If you cannot move the mountain then you must climb it."

I can't say it much better than that.

DEJ

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Wow, DEJ, you and your husband have been through so much! And, with such perserverance and great attitudes. Clearly you have much experience to share with the board. I'm glad you chose to post.

I'm sorry your journey has been so long. But, I love your saying about not being able to move the mountain and climbing over it instead.


Margaret
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C/G: Husband, 48 (at time of dx)
Dx 5/18/07 SCC, BOT, lymph node involvement. T1N2BM0. (Stage 4a, G2/3)
Tx 6/18 - 8/3/07, IMRT x 33 Cisplatin x3 (stopped after 1st dose due to hearing issues). Weekly Erbitux started 6/27/07 completed 8/6/07.
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Thank you for posting DEJ
As I'm currently receiving Gem/Carb (also palliative) it cheered me up no end!

Should get some results from chest node and lung tumour next Wednesday, so maybe it CAN work for a while!

Thanks again,
Brenda


Brenda in UK--Diagnosis 30/5/07--undifferentiated carcinoma in right jawbone and muscles. Stage 4
6/7/07--new diagnosis primary is in lung. Finished 4cycles of palliative carboplatin/gemcitabine
therapy September 07
Now dying to live!
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DEJ Plan A to Plan F is a tougher climb than everst but I know you'll continue all the way to Plan ZZZ if it's required. Climb that mountain and don't be afraid to carry your husband because you are obviously strong enough to do it!!
I hope Plan F is the magic wand for the two of you.
You have my thoughts and prayers.
Mike


Dentist since 1995, 12 year Cancer Survivor, Father, Husband, Thankful to so many who supported me on my journey so far, and more than happy to comfort a friend.
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DEJ thank you for posting. What you have shared is truly remarkable and inspiring.
Thank you so much.
Ginny


Ginny, spouse of MikeG. SSC BOT T2N1M0 Stage III, Dx 06/27/06 at age 52, Tx 07/31/06 through 09/28/06 Chemo Cisplatin & 5FU x2, Radiation x42. Cancer free and doing well.
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To DEJ and John- your post is such a remarkable tribute to how to fight this disease to its' end stage- either athe cancer is gone or not.
Thank you so much for sharing this and I, for one, would beg you to continue sharing [rather than lurking] because you never know whose life you will touch and make better through your experience. We really are a family here- people who share an intimacy that many families do not experience. Thank you again. Amy in the Ozarks


CGtoJohn:SCC Flr of Mouth.Dx 3\05. Surg.4\05.T3NOMO.IMRTx30. Recur Dx 1\06.Surg 2\06. Chemo: 4 Cycles of Carbo\Taxol:on Erbitux for 7 mo. Lost our battle 2-23-07- But not the will to fight this disease

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DEJ-
I can't tell you right now how much your post means to me. My mom is having a very, very hard time these last two days. The saying from Switzerland is going to help.
Good luck to John, happy to hear he has such a great MO. Gotta love a Doc who never gives up hope!
Donna


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CG to Mom, dx 4/25/07 with tongue cancer,T3N0,tx began 7/6/07, 31 tx's of IMRT, 8 cycles of Erbitux. Brachytherapy, surgery, left neck dissection and temp trach placed all on 9/17/07, trach removed 10/17/07. ORN of jaw, late effect of radiation symptoms. **lost my beautiful mother on 5/5/11.
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Keep posting DEJ. We learn from each other. Besides, by the continuation of this battle, science is constantly creating improved artillary to fight this disease, and the next "big gun" may prove invaluable for John. Thanks for sharing your story.
Warmly, JaneP


Husband: 3 SCC gum and cheek cancers 2002, 2005, 2006: surgery only. Scans clear after removal of small, well differentiated, non-invasive cancers. No radiation. 4th SCC lip diagnosed 4/13/07 - in situ, removed in biopsy. More lip removed 2/8/08 - dysplasia. 2 Biopsies 3/17/09 no cancer (lichenoids)
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DEJ & John: What an amazing story! Thank you for sharing this with us. It makes me realize that I have only scratched the surface of information regarding HNC; I know very little about clinical trials, but hope to become better informed as I read and study...
God be with you both...we will certainly keep you in our prayers!

Lois & Buzz in NC


CG to 77 y/o hubby;SCC Alveolar Ridge; Wake Forest Baptist Hosp surgery: 07/19/07; bi mod radical resection/jaw replacement;
T2 N2-B M0 Stage IV-A
28 IMRT +
6 Paclitaxel/Carboplatin
Getting stronger every day!

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