Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 3 of 4 1 2 3 4
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 837
"Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts)
Offline
"Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts)

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 837
trt,

I had surgery and radiation, but no chemo. Almost as soon as I was diagnosed, my oral surgeon referred me to a MO, who was intended to be the "point person" managing all my tests and overseeing my treatment. I developed a great deal of confidence in him during the process, and he became my PCP (and he still is, 18 years later). He does my general physicals and coordinates any necessary referrals to other specialists. By now, he has a pretty massive file of my medical history since 1989, and it means a lot to me to have someone with such a complete understanding who is continuing to do follow-ups with me.

Cathy


Tongue SCC (T2M0N0), poorly differentiated, diagnosed 3/89, partial glossectomy and neck dissection 4/89, radiation from early June to late August 1989
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 493
Platinum Member (300+ posts)
Offline
Platinum Member (300+ posts)

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 493
trt,

Tylenol 3, Fetynal patches etc...every time I mentioned pain they gave me more. As I stated it took a lot of pain management for me to make it through. I learned from this board that it was my right and was prepared to fight but fortunately I didn't have to. Fight for your own comfort, by now you should be on the Fet patch and taking morphine for break through. The pain got worse for me the 2 weeks following treatment and then it slowly dissipated.


Tim Stoj
60 yr old. Dx Jun 06 with BOT Stage IV. Neck dissesction on 19 Jun 06. Started Tx on 21 Aug 06/completed 33 IMRTs and 3 CT (2 Cisplat & 1 Carboplat) on 5 Oct 06.
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7
Member
Offline
Member

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7
trt,

Evidently, from what I read above, it varies from place to place as to which doc manages the pain meds. Regardless, if it's the RO or MO, you have a right to the meds! My RO and his staff managed mine (I was also receiving concurrent chemo and had a MO)) and NEVER failed to ask me about pain levels. I'm sorry your care hasn't been as attentive to this point - but, please, make yourself heard. You need the meds - they're not a crutch but an essential weapon in the battle.


Dx 2/12/2004 T2N2M0 SCC of right tonsil.Tx 4/13/-6/03/2004. Surgery, IMRT/Bilateral w/boost 35x, Carboplatin + Taxol 6x.
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 294
Gold Member (200+ posts)
Offline
Gold Member (200+ posts)

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 294
My MO and staff nurses always kept pushing pain meds on me during my Tx period at Emory here in Atlanta. They were so insistent that they almost convinced me that I needed all of it whether I had pain or not.

Based on my experience I can't imagine another facility having such an opposite view.

Bill D.


Dx 4/27/06, SCC, BOT, Stage III/IV, Tx 5/25/06 through 7/12/06 - 33 IMRT and 4 chemo, radical right side neck dissection 9/20/06.
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 294
Gold Member (200+ posts)
Offline
Gold Member (200+ posts)

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 294
My MO and staff nurses always kept pushing pain meds on me during my Tx period at Emory here in Atlanta. They were so insistent that they almost convinced me that I needed all of it whether I had pain or not.

Based on my experience I can't imagine another facility having such an opposite view.

Bill D.


Dx 4/27/06, SCC, BOT, Stage III/IV, Tx 5/25/06 through 7/12/06 - 33 IMRT and 4 chemo, radical right side neck dissection 9/20/06.
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 149
trt Offline OP
Senior Member (100+ posts)
OP Offline
Senior Member (100+ posts)

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 149
My big problem is not so much pain, but nausea, dizziness and that everyone feels that it's someone else who should help me.

RO says I don't need an MO and asks me to see the Surgeon.

Surgeon is not available so I see her PA who prescribes a coupla things (which don't work) and says that the RO could prescribe it also.

She does not know which MO would be appropriate so she'll send an email to the surgeon who will call the MO, whose office will call me to set up an appointment. While I feel I need to see someone now, their attitude is: there is no rush; he can suffer a few more weeks.

This stuff with email and calls from the office took months once in the past with a different referral. I still have not seen the doc for that referral.

I called a patient advocate and may call the social worker to see if they can facilitate communication.


Dx 10/06 Adenoid Cystic carcinoma; Stage I. Soft palate/minor salivary glands.
Tx surgery 11/06 Tomotherapy (targeted IMRT) 3/07
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,311
Senior Patient Advocate
Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts)
Offline
Senior Patient Advocate
Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts)

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,311
trt,

I keep harping on this topic to no avail but it really helps if we ALL post our DX and TX, etc under our signature so that people that take the time to answer can do so with a more complete picture.

That said for the umteenth time, I thought I read that you weren't taking chemo? I'm not sure why they would refer you to a MO if chemo is not involved. I had concurrent chemorad and I had both my RO and my MO prescribing me meds for EVERYTHING and I complained often that there wasn't one appointed Meds person for me to go to so I would call about this problem and would be told "you have to see so and so for that" and the next time I would call so and so and would be told " oh, Dr Other so and so handles that". For probably many reasons, none of which will ever be known in my lifetime, none of the so and so's ever could get my nausea under control. I kept crying out " if you guys can just solve my nausea, I'll be quiet". I eventually gave up and stopped taking all meds; fought thru the pain and my nausea went away and that finally got me over that BIG hump.

Sorry to vent re the posting of the DX, Tx, etc but when you try and answer a lot of posts it's really time consuming if that info is not readily available BESIDES IT'S TAX SEASON AND I'M EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE TO BEGIN WITH.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 837
"Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts)
Offline
"Above & Beyond" Member (300+ posts)

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 837
David,

The point I was trying to make in my previous post to trt was that my MO's practice is definitely NOT limited to chemo patients, and that he long ago replaced my GP as my PCP. He has filled the role that you seem to be talking about -- the one person I can call when I have any medical need, and he will see that I get the right medication or the right referral.

Cathy


Tongue SCC (T2M0N0), poorly differentiated, diagnosed 3/89, partial glossectomy and neck dissection 4/89, radiation from early June to late August 1989
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 3,552
Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts)
Offline
Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts)

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 3,552
There's no logic to this - my PCP for cancer followups, currently, is a head and neck surgeon and I didn't have any surgery. However an MO, as Cathy stated, does more than just manage chemo. Mine ordered all of my tests, scans and managed all of my meds. He was my PCP until my blood chemistry numbers settled down (about a year).

"Oncology" by the way, simply means "The branch of medicine dealing with tumors".

MO's are quite knowledgeable about body chemistry in general and that is why they make for great PCP's for cancer patients (the entire treatment process is quite an assault on your body chemistry and immune system). They are usually on top of infection control, pain management techniques as well as nausea control.


Gary Allsebrook
***********************************
Dx 11/22/02, SCC, 6 x 3 cm Polypoid tumor, rt tonsil, Stage III/IVA, T3N0M0 G1/2
Tx 1/28/03 - 3/19/03, Cisplatin ct x2, IMRT, bilateral, with boost, x35(69.96Gy)
________________________________________________________
"You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14 NIV)
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,676
JAM Offline
Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts)
Offline
Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts)

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,676
Hi, trt, It's the "nurse from Hell here[ ie Amy in Oz] There were several times when I had to embarrass some Docs and nurses to get what John needed- I'll leave how I did that up to your imagination- but just remember "the squeaky wheel gets the lube job"! Identify and ask for one Doc to be the primary call person-he should know all the meds you are on- and you should have a direct phone # to his nurse. Insist on this!! Amy in the Ozarks


CGtoJohn:SCC Flr of Mouth.Dx 3\05. Surg.4\05.T3NOMO.IMRTx30. Recur Dx 1\06.Surg 2\06. Chemo: 4 Cycles of Carbo\Taxol:on Erbitux for 7 mo. Lost our battle 2-23-07- But not the will to fight this disease

:
Page 3 of 4 1 2 3 4

Link Copied to Clipboard
Top Posters
ChristineB 10,507
davidcpa 8,311
Cheryld 5,260
EzJim 5,260
Brian Hill 4,912
Newest Members
Kval, iMarc845, amndcllns01, Jina, VintageMel
13,106 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums23
Topics18,170
Posts196,934
Members13,107
Most Online458
Jan 16th, 2020
OCF Awards

Great Nonprofit OCF 2023 Charity Navigator OCF Guidestar Charity OCF

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5